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 Stirlingsays  31 Mar 22 2.11pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Thanks for the explanation. At least we've still got a Conservative government to show us how it should be done. You might have a 'conservative' government. But you don't have a right wing party.....only on economics....well actually maybe not even there. Essentially we have a choice between Tony Blairism and wokism. That's not a choice I'm going to flatter with a vote. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2022 2.27pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 31 Mar 22 2.25pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
That is why I said history is constantly being re-interpreted In due course people that were considered heroes may lose their places on high pedestals as the long-term effects of their actions are considered anew. Those that write history have a huge power but potentially only for a limited period. Unless we all get exposed to Speedlearn (see The Prisoner episode named The General). This appears to be what is happening to all sides at the moment regarding Ukraine. I think the problem is that mistakes have been made and are continuing to be made, and all we are left to do is discuss the disastrous fallout and how we can fix it. Meanwhile, many people learn history through the TV which is infested with left wing bias. They want to convince us that decisions that would have been rejected as folly by the majority are somehow progressive and positive, despite the clear evidence to the contrary.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 31 Mar 22 2.47pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You might have a 'conservative' government. But you don't have a right wing party.....only on economics....well actually maybe not even there. Essentially we have a choice between Tony Blairism and wokism. That's not a choice I'm going to flatter with a vote. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2022 2.27pm) Maybe not right-wing by Hol's standards, but certainly in the real world. Starmer and Labour have done everything they can to move away from the Labour left, despite the popularity of Corbyn within the membership. We at least have that in common - I didn't vote last time and I doubt I will next time.
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| Mapletree Croydon 31 Mar 22 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think the problem is that mistakes have been made and are continuing to be made, and all we are left to do is discuss the disastrous fallout and how we can fix it. Meanwhile, many people learn history through the TV which is infested with left wing bias. They want to convince us that decisions that would have been rejected as folly by the majority are somehow progressive and positive, despite the clear evidence to the contrary. Yes. Everyone on the TV, along with so called experts like Doctors and Professors, just can’t spot the obvious in the way that you can You will, of course, end up on the right side of history. Just before the last few white people are sent to the salt mines
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| Stirlingsays 31 Mar 22 3.06pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Maybe not right-wing by Hol's standards, but certainly in the real world. The real world contains people far more right wing than me or anyone else I've seen on Hol. Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Starmer and Labour have done everything they can to move away from the Labour left, despite the popularity of Corbyn within the membership. We at least have that in common - I didn't vote last time and I doubt I will next time.
They are still the party that kneels and who can't describe what a women is. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2022 3.08pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 31 Mar 22 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The real world contains people far more right wing than me or anyone else I've seen on Hol. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2022 3.08pm) Yes, a few. Not very many though. AZOV and Jobbik spring to mind. Still, keep it up and eventually you will win the mantle to which you so aspire.
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| Mapletree Croydon 31 Mar 22 6.15pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
They are still the party that kneels and who can't describe what a women is. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2022 3.08pm) A women? Did you mean a wimmin? I think you'll find it has a very clear definition of a woman, as seen on Politics Live today from Stella Creasy. And guess what, the Tory (Andrew Bowie) agreed with it. Made Chris Hope from The Telegraph look pretty foolish TBH. The element towards the end about trans people was very interesting and enlightening, I suggest you take a look. Some people are born with c*cks, some people are just c*cks.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 31 Mar 22 6.18pm |
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......''he who caused the pregnancy, should pay the childcare bills''
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| Stirlingsays 31 Mar 22 6.21pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
A women? Did you mean a wimmin? I think you'll find it has a very clear definition of a woman, as seen on Politics Live today from Stella Creasy. And guess what, the Tory (Andrew Bowie) agreed with it. Made Chris Hope from The Telegraph look pretty foolish TBH. The element towards the end about trans people was very interesting and enlightening, I suggest you take a look. Some people are born with c*cks, some people are just c*cks. I don't have a BBC license, so I won't be watching iplayer links I'm afraid....still it's a change from your al jazeera fixation. I would actually like to hear what Labour's definition of a woman is....as you have made it plain that they now have one. If a Tory agreed with it that means nothing to me.....they are not a right wing party. But you are welcome to paste that description. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2022 6.37pm)
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| Stirlingsays 31 Mar 22 6.22pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Yes, a few. Not very many though. AZOV and Jobbik spring to mind. Still, keep it up and eventually you will win the mantle to which you so aspire. The guy who once pretended to hate labels.
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| Stirlingsays 31 Mar 22 6.34pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
......''he who caused the pregnancy, should pay the childcare bills''
Yet if the woman aborts his child that he would support, he has no say and it's considered wrong to have an issue.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 31 Mar 22 6.43pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Yes. Everyone on the TV, along with so called experts like Doctors and Professors, just can’t spot the obvious in the way that you can You will, of course, end up on the right side of history. Just before the last few white people are sent to the salt mines
I do think that most people on TV are bound to avoid saying what they actually think because they want to keep their jobs. It is rather naive to think that 'experts' are always right, or that decisions are always made based on the common good. You can use the old 'you always think you know better than the experts' routine, but the judgement of choices made are in the results, not in who makes them.
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That's funny.
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