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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 25 Jan 22 9.27am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Jamie Carragher supports Liverpool yet he thought it was a fairly obvious penalty

No he didnt, he said it was a ludicrous decision

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 25 Jan 22 10.36am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Football is being ruined by all this over analysis VAR etc etc.
Just read some of the posts during the game which are probably influenced by the pundits. At the ground you are free of all that stuff. I’m no expert but watching live you get in the mood of it generally. I admit I was stunned by Liverpool from the moment they ran out. They are really fit strong athletes. When Dyke scored his header I felt no bad towards our boys he just left them for dust and the header was a bullet. They were awesome. In a different league. For half an hour they were Champions elect. Then it was 2-0. No one commented on any offside never saw from the Arthur that ludicrous new offside rule that would have made their man off.
Then it turned Olise started working his magic. I saw him run round Dyke and but for their keeper would have scored. Then Mateta.
In the Arthur you are up down from the seats all the time. I half saw a couple of great chances at the start of the 2nd half. Then I saw Schlupp run half the length of the pith before threading an unreal pass for Mateta to control like he was Pele and slip it to Edouard to fire into an empty net. We were running rings round the scousers and we were going to win!!!
Now I know it wasn’t really like that cos I’ve seen the replays but at the time we were up in the clouds. The singing was awesome etc etc.
I realise I probably only take in/see half of it cos the Arthur has posts etc to deal with but the atmosphere was immense.
Then the scouser in the black saw to it that we were going nowhere. He had been biased all match (all refs always are when your there!!!) but then he turned it up to a different level.
Then Olise nearly scored the goal of the season with a lob. I sit nearer the Homesdale.
Then their centre forward lost the ball and fell over. Couldn’t see much more cos of a post. After about 10 minutes (probably 3) the ref came to look at some tiny screen right in front of the baying Palace. After another endless wait he gave the pen.
Other memories. When Mateta Edouard Hughes and someone else went off I knew our day was run.
For me it’s all a bit of a haze live. Always has been. I make my own mind up based on my limited vision from the Arthur and I love it.
In my mind we were awesome might immense. Should be in the top ten safely.
Then I read on here we are close to relegation not sure about Vieira and I’m thinking what match were they at?
Then I realised it’s the difference between live sitting where I am and the telly. With all those pundits voicing off.
Give me live any day. I like my fantasy world. Keeps me coming back

Edited by dreamwaverider (25 Jan 2022 10.39am)

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Jan 22 11.22am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Football is being ruined by all this over analysis VAR etc etc.
Just read some of the posts during the game which are probably influenced by the pundits. At the ground you are free of all that stuff. I’m no expert but watching live you get in the mood of it generally. I admit I was stunned by Liverpool from the moment they ran out. They are really fit strong athletes. When Dyke scored his header I felt no bad towards our boys he just left them for dust and the header was a bullet. They were awesome. In a different league. For half an hour they were Champions elect. Then it was 2-0. No one commented on any offside never saw from the Arthur that ludicrous new offside rule that would have made their man off.
Then it turned Olise started working his magic. I saw him run round Dyke and but for their keeper would have scored. Then Mateta.
In the Arthur you are up down from the seats all the time. I half saw a couple of great chances at the start of the 2nd half. Then I saw Schlupp run half the length of the pith before threading an unreal pass for Mateta to control like he was Pele and slip it to Edouard to fire into an empty net. We were running rings round the scousers and we were going to win!!!
Now I know it wasn’t really like that cos I’ve seen the replays but at the time we were up in the clouds. The singing was awesome etc etc.
I realise I probably only take in/see half of it cos the Arthur has posts etc to deal with but the atmosphere was immense.
Then the scouser in the black saw to it that we were going nowhere. He had been biased all match (all refs always are when your there!!!) but then he turned it up to a different level.
Then Olise nearly scored the goal of the season with a lob. I sit nearer the Homesdale.
Then their centre forward lost the ball and fell over. Couldn’t see much more cos of a post. After about 10 minutes (probably 3) the ref came to look at some tiny screen right in front of the baying Palace. After another endless wait he gave the pen.
Other memories. When Mateta Edouard Hughes and someone else went off I knew our day was run.
For me it’s all a bit of a haze live. Always has been. I make my own mind up based on my limited vision from the Arthur and I love it.
In my mind we were awesome might immense. Should be in the top ten safely.
Then I read on here we are close to relegation not sure about Vieira and I’m thinking what match were they at?
Then I realised it’s the difference between live sitting where I am and the telly. With all those pundits voicing off.
Give me live any day. I like my fantasy world. Keeps me coming back

Edited by dreamwaverider (25 Jan 2022 10.39am)


Brilliant. Thanks. I was there too and know just what you mean. I was in the Main Stand towards the Whitehorse lane end and got a good view of that so-called pen. I'll leave it at that. However, the atmosphere during the second half was superb, so much so that I reckon it affected the Scousers on the pitch. They were in damage limitation mode for most of it. Just loved the way we went at them until the moment that marred the match.

I'll be making my 7 hour return trip for Hartlepool, God willing.

 

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peterg Flag Anerley 25 Jan 22 1.28pm Send a Private Message to peterg Add peterg as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Brilliant. Thanks. I was there too and know just what you mean. I was in the Main Stand towards the Whitehorse lane end and got a good view of that so-called pen. I'll leave it at that. However, the atmosphere during the second half was superb, so much so that I reckon it affected the Scousers on the pitch. They were in damage limitation mode for most of it. Just loved the way we went at them until the moment that marred the match.

I'll be making my 7 hour return trip for Hartlepool, God willing.

Two great posts, many thanks. Watching on tv never brings the same atmosphere which was just brilliant as Palace pressed for the equaliser - and you hope for the moment of magic that will make it happen. However even in the Holmesdale Upper I knew almost at once that the pen decision was rubbish, because both my sons were watching tv and WhatsApped their own opinion, plus that of the Sky team. So we knew very quickly it was an abysmal call. Best of both worlds, in a way. Once I got home I could not face watching the match recording because I was already so annoyed. When I finally did so later that evening, it confirmed everything I had been told.

Edited by peterg (25 Jan 2022 1.30pm)

 


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Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 25 Jan 22 2.07pm Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by peterg

Two great posts, many thanks. Watching on tv never brings the same atmosphere which was just brilliant as Palace pressed for the equaliser - and you hope for the moment of magic that will make it happen. However even in the Holmesdale Upper I knew almost at once that the pen decision was rubbish, because both my sons were watching tv and WhatsApped their own opinion, plus that of the Sky team. So we knew very quickly it was an abysmal call. Best of both worlds, in a way. Once I got home I could not face watching the match recording because I was already so annoyed. When I finally did so later that evening, it confirmed everything I had been told.

Edited by peterg (25 Jan 2022 1.30pm)

The biggest thrill as a teenager was standing on the Whitehorse, seeing in the distance an attack then the ball has obviously gone in and suddenly the roar! One of the greatest noises a young lad can hear.

Edited by Slimey Toad (25 Jan 2022 2.08pm)

 

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stuckinbristol Flag In the woodwork. 25 Jan 22 5.22pm Send a Private Message to stuckinbristol Add stuckinbristol as a friend

The telling thing for me was my 'Pool supporting mate messaging me just after the final whistle saying "we got away with one or two today"

 

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Oddball2021 Flag Adelaide 27 Jan 22 11.43am Send a Private Message to Oddball2021 Add Oddball2021 as a friend

People keep going on about the penalty decision. What really hurt was Liverpool being given time to regroup. They were rattled and we looked like scoring one or two more. It was close to the 80 minute mark when the incident happened. What was appalling was the sheer amount of time that transpired as Friend and VAR chatted about what to do. It went on for at least 5 minutes! Liverpool players rushed around Klopp for water and team-talk. Both Friend and his VAR mate were equally at fault. The VAR decision for Friend to view the footage strongly implies that he got his original decision wrong. He gave the penalty because he's a gutless coward because that's what all the gutless refs will do - they will agree with VAR. But that wasn't what killed our comeback - even if the penalty was missed, Liverpool were given time to regroup and the momentum was stopped. I noted that the time was 80 minutes when the incident took place, and showed 90 minutes when the penalty was scored. Did we get the TEN MINUTES that was wasted, in Liverpool's favour, by Friend and VAR? No - SIX minutes. Friend needs to be sacked. He should have dismissed the VAR request and played on, because in the context of the game Palace's momentum and Liverpool's disarray were the main factors. I have been watching VAR now and it favours the big teams - so what's the point?

 

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topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 27 Jan 22 12.08pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Jamie Carragher supports Liverpool yet he thought it was a fairly obvious penalty

"I don't think it's a penalty. It always looks worse when they slow it down, when I watched it in real time, there wasn't a problem for me," he said on Sky Sports' commentary.

"I think the ball has also gone too far away from Jota. I think it would be very harsh on Crystal Palace, I really do.

"There's definitely a coming together, of course we can see that, but I think it would be very harsh. When I watched it in real time, it just looked like a coming together.

"When the referee goes to the monitor, it very rarely stays the decision on field. It's very ominous for Crystal Palace, I've seen it a lot of times and I'm not convinced but when the referee is sent to watch it again, I don't think it's happened this season where the referee has stuck with the decision.

"I think the ball is too far away, I think he's lost control of it. I think it's really harsh, I also get frustrated when you look at VAR and everything is in slow motion.

"The only thing I can think is maybe it's not how big the foul was but that he thought Jota could get the other side.

"I thought the ball had ran too far away from him and that it was a coming together. But as soon as you see the referee go to the monitor, it's curtains."

 


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Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 27 Jan 22 12.14pm Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Oddball2021

People keep going on about the penalty decision. What really hurt was Liverpool being given time to regroup. They were rattled and we looked like scoring one or two more. It was close to the 80 minute mark when the incident happened. What was appalling was the sheer amount of time that transpired as Friend and VAR chatted about what to do. It went on for at least 5 minutes! Liverpool players rushed around Klopp for water and team-talk. Both Friend and his VAR mate were equally at fault. The VAR decision for Friend to view the footage strongly implies that he got his original decision wrong. He gave the penalty because he's a gutless coward because that's what all the gutless refs will do - they will agree with VAR. But that wasn't what killed our comeback - even if the penalty was missed, Liverpool were given time to regroup and the momentum was stopped. I noted that the time was 80 minutes when the incident took place, and showed 90 minutes when the penalty was scored. Did we get the TEN MINUTES that was wasted, in Liverpool's favour, by Friend and VAR? No - SIX minutes. Friend needs to be sacked. He should have dismissed the VAR request and played on, because in the context of the game Palace's momentum and Liverpool's disarray were the main factors. I have been watching VAR now and it favours the big teams - so what's the point?

It was nearer 85 minutes when the incident happened, but I agree we did not get that time back.

 

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Putitout Flag Oxford 27 Jan 22 12.15pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

"I don't think it's a penalty. It always looks worse when they slow it down, when I watched it in real time, there wasn't a problem for me," he said on Sky Sports' commentary.

"I think the ball has also gone too far away from Jota. I think it would be very harsh on Crystal Palace, I really do.

"There's definitely a coming together, of course we can see that, but I think it would be very harsh. When I watched it in real time, it just looked like a coming together.

"When the referee goes to the monitor, it very rarely stays the decision on field. It's very ominous for Crystal Palace, I've seen it a lot of times and I'm not convinced but when the referee is sent to watch it again, I don't think it's happened this season where the referee has stuck with the decision.

"I think the ball is too far away, I think he's lost control of it. I think it's really harsh, I also get frustrated when you look at VAR and everything is in slow motion.

"The only thing I can think is maybe it's not how big the foul was but that he thought Jota could get the other side.

"I thought the ball had ran too far away from him and that it was a coming together. But as soon as you see the referee go to the monitor, it's curtains."

The tell tail was he had lost the ball but it went off at an angle to Guita, Jota, didn’t follow the ball, which is the natural thing to do ,whether it was lost or not, in fact he turned slightly into Guieta. A very poor cheat attempt. Sucked by two so called top refs. Lord help this game of ours.

 

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palace chick Flag South Croydon 27 Jan 22 12.38pm Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

It’s not the penalty that gets me, it’s the allowed offside second goal scored by Liverpool. They were so on top for that first half hour that to be chasing just one down in the second half was a huge possibility of us getting back into it as we played much better in the second half. That second offside goal killed it and then the penalty which was another awful decision by the officials just rubbed it in. The assistant referee should have raised he’s flag for the offside goal but obviously even in line he missed it and then VAR didn’t give it. Awful officiating by all. Grrrr!

 

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Putitout Flag Oxford 27 Jan 22 1.15pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

It’s not the penalty that gets me, it’s the allowed offside second goal scored by Liverpool. They were so on top for that first half hour that to be chasing just one down in the second half was a huge possibility of us getting back into it as we played much better in the second half. That second offside goal killed it and then the penalty which was another awful decision by the officials just rubbed it in. The assistant referee should have raised he’s flag for the offside goal but obviously even in line he missed it and then VAR didn’t give it. Awful officiating by all. Grrrr!

The two refs were bad enough, but the assistant, was the same in both half’s. First he missed the one that turned into a goal, in the second half he gave Benteke, off when he was clearly half a yard on side. Just an appalling indictment of refereeing in the premier league. As someone has said the whole world watching, yet what gets done about it? Nothing, and nothing will be,

 

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