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the.universal 12 Dec 21 12.03pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Can anyone think of anything this Government has done, which by any stretch of the imagination could be interpreted as even vaguely laudable ? And before the vaccine roll-out is mentioned, even BJ very early on put that down to the private sector (drugs companies) playing their part in the capitalist market. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (12 Dec 2021 10.27am) I give them a fair slice of credit for the vaccine roll out, however it was done they did a good job there and worked quickly to secure many doses ahead of the rest of the world. Furlough was a success too, although not perfect it was probably as good as it could have been. Vive le Roy!
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the.universal 12 Dec 21 12.03pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Can anyone think of anything this Government has done, which by any stretch of the imagination could be interpreted as even vaguely laudable ?

And before the vaccine roll-out is mentioned, even BJ very early on put that down to the private sector (drugs companies) playing their part in the capitalist market.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (12 Dec 2021 10.27am)

I give them a fair slice of credit for the vaccine roll out, however it was done they did a good job there and worked quickly to secure many doses ahead of the rest of the world.

Furlough was a success too, although not perfect it was probably as good as it could have been.

Vive le Roy!

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Eaglecoops CR3 12 Dec 21 12.10pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Can anyone think of anything this Government has done, which by any stretch of the imagination could be interpreted as even vaguely laudable ? And before the vaccine roll-out is mentioned, even BJ very early on put that down to the private sector (drugs companies) playing their part in the capitalist market. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (12 Dec 2021 10.27am) What do you think could have been done that would not have been done with the benefit of hindsight. Starmer's answer was normally to just say the opposite of whatever the government were doing despite it being a national crisis which would have benefitted from all parties coming together. The problem with politics is that the parties are more interested in their own party than they are what is right for the country. They are the wrong people to deal with this sort of crisis, but it's our system so we are stuck with it.
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CR3 12 Dec 21 12.10pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Can anyone think of anything this Government has done, which by any stretch of the imagination could be interpreted as even vaguely laudable ?

And before the vaccine roll-out is mentioned, even BJ very early on put that down to the private sector (drugs companies) playing their part in the capitalist market.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (12 Dec 2021 10.27am)

What do you think could have been done that would not have been done with the benefit of hindsight. Starmer's answer was normally to just say the opposite of whatever the government were doing despite it being a national crisis which would have benefitted from all parties coming together.

The problem with politics is that the parties are more interested in their own party than they are what is right for the country. They are the wrong people to deal with this sort of crisis, but it's our system so we are stuck with it.

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steeleye20 Croydon 12 Dec 21 12.35pm
A Corbyn government would have been far better for us, in every way. To leave or exit, under terms to be voted on by us, how does that look now! Failed privatisations such water and energy, transport, restored to public accountability. A wealth tax, genuine corporation tax increases and social justice. Ending homelessness, evictions. child poverty where to even start now. And all the time the few get more wealth than they could ever handle, the country awash with corruption. A dictatorship? it's almost one now. The fact that the brexit generation brought this upon us is undeniable. 17 million utter plonkers.
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Croydon 12 Dec 21 12.35pm

A Corbyn government would have been far better for us, in every way.

To leave or exit, under terms to be voted on by us, how does that look now!

Failed privatisations such water and energy, transport, restored to public accountability.

A wealth tax, genuine corporation tax increases and social justice.

Ending homelessness, evictions. child poverty where to even start now.

And all the time the few get more wealth than they could ever handle, the country awash with corruption.

A dictatorship? it's almost one now.

The fact that the brexit generation brought this upon us is undeniable.

17 million utter plonkers.

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Eaglecoops CR3 12 Dec 21 12.57pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 A Corbyn government would have been far better for us, in every way. To leave or exit, under terms to be voted on by us, how does that look now! Failed privatisations such water and energy, transport, restored to public accountability. A wealth tax, genuine corporation tax increases and social justice. Ending homelessness, evictions. child poverty where to even start now. And all the time the few get more wealth than they could ever handle, the country awash with corruption. A dictatorship? it's almost one now. The fact that the brexit generation brought this upon us is undeniable. 17 million utter plonkers. Supposition every word. No-one knows what would have happened and never will because they were totally unelectable then and remain pretty much the same now.
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Eaglecoops

CR3 12 Dec 21 12.57pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

A Corbyn government would have been far better for us, in every way.

To leave or exit, under terms to be voted on by us, how does that look now!

Failed privatisations such water and energy, transport, restored to public accountability.

A wealth tax, genuine corporation tax increases and social justice.

Ending homelessness, evictions. child poverty where to even start now.

And all the time the few get more wealth than they could ever handle, the country awash with corruption.

A dictatorship? it's almost one now.

The fact that the brexit generation brought this upon us is undeniable.

17 million utter plonkers.

Supposition every word. No-one knows what would have happened and never will because they were totally unelectable then and remain pretty much the same now.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 12 Dec 21 1.53pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops What do you think could have been done that would not have been done with the benefit of hindsight. Starmer's answer was normally to just say the opposite of whatever the government were doing despite it being a national crisis which would have benefitted from all parties coming together. The problem with politics is that the parties are more interested in their own party than they are what is right for the country. They are the wrong people to deal with this sort of crisis, but it's our system so we are stuck with it. I think the political system is to blame. It doesn't excuse the Conservatives and the PM in particular, behaving like in the manner they've been doing. As far as the pandemic, the Government surrounded themselves with paid experts who were compliant with merging government policy and scientific best practice. This was particularly evident with timing of Lock-downs and the 'flexible approach using a multitude of differing restrictions'. You don't think the way that Covid contracts were given needs scrutinising, and how effective they were ? as one example I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I think the political system is to blame. It doesn't excuse the Conservatives and the PM in particular, behaving like in the manner they've been doing.
As far as the pandemic, the Government surrounded themselves with paid experts who were compliant with merging government policy and scientific best practice. This was particularly evident with timing of Lock-downs and the 'flexible approach using a multitude of differing restrictions'.
You don't think the way that Covid contracts were given needs scrutinising, and how effective they were ? as one example

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Mapletree Croydon 12 Dec 21 3.04pm
Originally posted by the.universal I give them a fair slice of credit for the vaccine roll out, however it was done they did a good job there and worked quickly to secure many doses ahead of the rest of the world. Furlough was a success too, although not perfect it was probably as good as it could have been. I agree, historically they did OK. Now, well, who is Maggie Throup? Why have we gone backwards compared to so many countries? I note that Zahawi indicated today on Marr he is getting back involved, that suggests the Government has finally worked out it has lost momentum. That is unforgivable given the importance.
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Mapletree

Croydon 12 Dec 21 3.04pm

Originally posted by the.universal

I give them a fair slice of credit for the vaccine roll out, however it was done they did a good job there and worked quickly to secure many doses ahead of the rest of the world.

Furlough was a success too, although not perfect it was probably as good as it could have been.

I agree, historically they did OK. Now, well, who is Maggie Throup? Why have we gone backwards compared to so many countries?

I note that Zahawi indicated today on Marr he is getting back involved, that suggests the Government has finally worked out it has lost momentum. That is unforgivable given the importance.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 12 Dec 21 3.11pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 A Corbyn government would have been far better for us, in every way. an IRA supporting anti-Semite in 10 Downing Street ? dream on. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by steeleye20

A Corbyn government would have been far better for us, in every way.

an IRA supporting anti-Semite in 10 Downing Street ? dream on.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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the.universal 12 Dec 21 3.53pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I agree, historically they did OK. Now, well, who is Maggie Throup? Why have we gone backwards compared to so many countries? I note that Zahawi indicated today on Marr he is getting back involved, that suggests the Government has finally worked out it has lost momentum. That is unforgivable given the importance. I personally think it’s only vaccinating the elderly/disabled that matters. Once you have done that then there are fast diminishing returns. Hence I wouldn’t agree we are going backwards. Everyone has had a chance at a vaccine, if you want to take it then do, if you don’t want to take it that is fine as well. Vive le Roy!
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the.universal 12 Dec 21 3.53pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I agree, historically they did OK. Now, well, who is Maggie Throup? Why have we gone backwards compared to so many countries?

I note that Zahawi indicated today on Marr he is getting back involved, that suggests the Government has finally worked out it has lost momentum. That is unforgivable given the importance.

I personally think it’s only vaccinating the elderly/disabled that matters. Once you have done that then there are fast diminishing returns.

Hence I wouldn’t agree we are going backwards. Everyone has had a chance at a vaccine, if you want to take it then do, if you don’t want to take it that is fine as well.

Vive le Roy!

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Stirlingsays 12 Dec 21 4.10pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I agree, historically they did OK. Now, well, who is Maggie Throup? Why have we gone backwards compared to so many countries? I note that Zahawi indicated today on Marr he is getting back involved, that suggests the Government has finally worked out it has lost momentum. That is unforgivable given the importance. You definitely want to get to know Maggie Throup better! 'Wake up Maggie, Mapletree has something to say to you'. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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12 Dec 21 4.10pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I agree, historically they did OK. Now, well, who is Maggie Throup? Why have we gone backwards compared to so many countries?

I note that Zahawi indicated today on Marr he is getting back involved, that suggests the Government has finally worked out it has lost momentum. That is unforgivable given the importance.

You definitely want to get to know Maggie Throup better!

'Wake up Maggie, Mapletree has something to say to you'.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 12 Dec 21 7.00pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 A Corbyn government would have been far better for us, in every way. To leave or exit, under terms to be voted on by us, how does that look now! Failed privatisations such water and energy, transport, restored to public accountability. A wealth tax, genuine corporation tax increases and social justice. Ending homelessness, evictions. child poverty where to even start now. And all the time the few get more wealth than they could ever handle, the country awash with corruption. A dictatorship? it's almost one now. The fact that the brexit generation brought this upon us is undeniable. 17 million utter plonkers. He wouldn"t have nicked the £47 thousand million and shared it out among his family and pals, thats for sure. Still, whats £47 billion, only money, we can afford it-can"t we?
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Any european country i fancy! 12 Dec 21 7.00pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

A Corbyn government would have been far better for us, in every way.

To leave or exit, under terms to be voted on by us, how does that look now!

Failed privatisations such water and energy, transport, restored to public accountability.

A wealth tax, genuine corporation tax increases and social justice.

Ending homelessness, evictions. child poverty where to even start now.

And all the time the few get more wealth than they could ever handle, the country awash with corruption.

A dictatorship? it's almost one now.

The fact that the brexit generation brought this upon us is undeniable.

17 million utter plonkers.

He wouldn"t have nicked the £47 thousand million and shared it out among his family and pals, thats for sure. Still, whats £47 billion, only money, we can afford it-can"t we?

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Mapletree Croydon 12 Dec 21 7.16pm
Originally posted by the.universal I personally think it’s only vaccinating the elderly/disabled that matters. Once you have done that then there are fast diminishing returns. Hence I wouldn’t agree we are going backwards. Everyone has had a chance at a vaccine, if you want to take it then do, if you don’t want to take it that is fine as well. If you vaccinate people they avoid self isolating when they should be at work or school. It’s being a vector and passing the virus on ultimately to the vulnerable that really counts.
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Mapletree

Croydon 12 Dec 21 7.16pm

Originally posted by the.universal

I personally think it’s only vaccinating the elderly/disabled that matters. Once you have done that then there are fast diminishing returns.

Hence I wouldn’t agree we are going backwards. Everyone has had a chance at a vaccine, if you want to take it then do, if you don’t want to take it that is fine as well.

If you vaccinate people they avoid self isolating when they should be at work or school. It’s being a vector and passing the virus on ultimately to the vulnerable that really counts.

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Matov 12 Dec 21 8.07pm
Let's assume a Corbyn-led Government had come into power in December 2019. With the immediate clamour being no doubt the passing of a new referendum bill. Would have passed probably within a month or two. Probably a late May date decided upon... And then March comes around... Whatever you might think about how a Corbyn led Government might have handled Covid, the reality is that this country would already be fractured in a horrendously dangerous way. Add what would have been a no doubt far more draconian approach to lock-downs given the Lefts natural inclination of relishing state-control, the entire BLM hysteria and Brexiteers willing to cause utter mayhem and you have a country probably quite literally going to war with itself. I genuinely shudder at what might have been. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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12 Dec 21 8.07pm

Let's assume a Corbyn-led Government had come into power in December 2019. With the immediate clamour being no doubt the passing of a new referendum bill. Would have passed probably within a month or two. Probably a late May date decided upon...

And then March comes around...

Whatever you might think about how a Corbyn led Government might have handled Covid, the reality is that this country would already be fractured in a horrendously dangerous way. Add what would have been a no doubt far more draconian approach to lock-downs given the Lefts natural inclination of relishing state-control, the entire BLM hysteria and Brexiteers willing to cause utter mayhem and you have a country probably quite literally going to war with itself.

I genuinely shudder at what might have been.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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