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kuge Peckham 12 Sep 21 7.12pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
The fact that the previous assessments proved that many were. It's a cyclical thing. The chance that none are illegal is minute surely. What percentage had genuine asylum claims? Even if by 'many' you mean the majority there will still be a significant number with valid asylum claims.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Sep 21 7.17pm | |
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Originally posted by kuge
Thank God someone has read something. I agree with you that not much is applicable to contemporary situations. As you will know direct historic parallels is rarely of any great value. Also, I agree that the final fall of the Eastern Roman empire in 1453 was the event of greater significance. And the idea that the Catholic Church is a vestigial extension of the RE, well that is indeed a stretch. Can you tell me what primary and secondary sources you have looked at? The revisionism that is led by Peter Heather is not as revolutionary or radical as it at first appears. Essentially he agrees with the majority of the causes put forward by Gibbon but he wishes to downplay the emphasis Gibbon placed on Christianity and focus on internal insurgencies. As I have said before to interpret this as immigration is rather confusing as it was the Romans that were the migrant/invaders. From recollection, (I read it some time ago), Heather writes about the massive storage of labour in the final years of the Roman empire as a contributory factor to the collapse. This suggests that the lack of immigration was as important and an excess. It's amusing to think that the Roman Empire was brought down by trousers. Perhaps even farcical... I am sure that there are already academics researching the French ban on burkas. It would be false of me to claim to be a Roman expert. One module I looked at in College was the Holy Roman Empire. Quite an unusual entity, that probably has more relevance to European life today. However, I came across some of the Roman research questions whilst reading sources that weren't entirely about Rome. I came across quite a bit about the topic of what happened to the Roman Army?
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PalazioVecchio south pole 12 Sep 21 7.40pm | |
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Originally posted by kuge
This would be amusing if it were not so sad. A three-paragraph (and I am being generous here) synopsis of the Wikipedia page on the Roman Empire does not convince anyone that you know the first thing about the subject. The idea that this banal idiotic simplification of 1000 years of history has any value is absurd. Comparing it to contemporary geopolitical situations is ludicrous. write something intelligent there mate, surprise us all.
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BlueJay UK 12 Sep 21 7.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I have no problem with being challenged. In fact, I love it when people are demonstrably wrong but persist in posting out of some desperate desire to save face. There appears to be no scope in your view of being challenged where you consider that you're actually ever wrong about anything? Or even that more than one interpretation may be valid.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Sep 21 8.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You have to smile at the one eyed perspective. When it's opinions they don't like, it's apparently dark and something they must 'challenge' or if somehow more than one person is agreeing it is somehow a 'circle jerk'.....though you see them happily joining in on....I suppose what must amount to their own 'circle jerks' on threads where it's situations/opinions they approve of. If we ignore them, do you think they will go away? I really can't be bothered to respond to such dimwittery. Their goal is to disrupt the thread by turning it into a slanging match and get it locked. And all because they want to rewrite history that they feel threatened by.
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BlueJay UK 12 Sep 21 8.21pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
It would be false of me to claim to be a Roman expert. One module I looked at in College was the Holy Roman Empire. Quite an unusual entity, that probably has more relevance to European life today. However, I came across some of the Roman research questions whilst reading sources that weren't entirely about Rome. I came across quite a bit about the topic of what happened to the Roman Army? Interesting to hear the contrasts in the takes you two have. Read with interest .
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DanH SW2 12 Sep 21 8.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If we ignore them, do you think they will go away? I really can't be bothered to respond to such dimwittery. Their goal is to disrupt the thread by turning it into a slanging match and get it locked. And all because they want to rewrite history that they feel threatened by. He’s posted intelligent and evidenced replies to challenge what you have stated and you’ve thrown your toys out the pram because you don’t like being made to look a dimwit. You’ve also been rude and offensive to him. You three stooges who follow each other around these boards aggressively backing each other up just don’t like it when you’re held to account by someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
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Stirlingsays 12 Sep 21 8.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If we ignore them, do you think they will go away? I really can't be bothered to respond to such dimwittery. Their goal is to disrupt the thread by turning it into a slanging match and get it locked. And all because they want to rewrite history that they feel threatened by. I certainly think we should be a bit more choosey who we regularly respond to.....Spicy Orange thinks we are one and the same, which is amusing though I do like the idea that I'm writing to myself here.....it's all a devious plan Spicy! I think there was some useful dialogue in this thread but it certainly does get a bit tetchy as it goes on. I'm not a fan of locked threads and so I've rather the gloves were kept on instead of the switch blades as much as possible.....though I'm guilty of the odd slash myself. I'm always interested in your take mate. And we have some excellent posts from what is apparently regarded as some sort of evil cabal insidiously taking over Hol and demoralising good people from posting. Strange, how this wasn't a problem when Hol had majority lefty posters.
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Stirlingsays 12 Sep 21 8.37pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
He’s posted intelligent and evidenced replies to challenge what you have stated and you’ve thrown your toys out the pram because you don’t like being made to look a dimwit. You’ve also been rude and offensive to him. You three stooges who follow each other around these boards aggressively backing each other up just don’t like it when you’re held to account by someone who actually knows what they are talking about. Strange, but then again, probably what I'd expect from someone who thinks that critical race theory is a balanced view of the west.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Sep 21 9.08pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
He’s posted intelligent and evidenced replies to challenge what you have stated and you’ve thrown your toys out the pram because you don’t like being made to look a dimwit. You’ve also been rude and offensive to him. You three stooges who follow each other around these boards aggressively backing each other up just don’t like it when you’re held to account by someone who actually knows what they are talking about. They are not evidenced at all. The evidence that migration into the Roman Empire and the use of foreign mercenaries in the legions were key factors in the downfall of Rome are available for anyone to see. But of course, we all know that you are not interested in reality.
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kuge Peckham 12 Sep 21 10.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If we ignore them, do you think they will go away? I really can't be bothered to respond to such dimwittery. Their goal is to disrupt the thread by turning it into a slanging match and get it locked. And all because they want to rewrite history that they feel threatened by. Not likely to go away.
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kuge Peckham 12 Sep 21 10.28pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
write something intelligent there mate, surprise us all.
I am waiting for you to present an argument that is coherent or erudite.
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