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  Hrolf The Ganger  19 Jul 21 11.54am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The general direction of travel in this context being towards greater co-operation between like-minded nations. Not isolationism. It is more efficient to co-operate with your near neighbours than with those half a world away.
Centralised power is the only likely outcome of the EU. That means less people making decisions for more people and from a foreign country. You might see that as some sort of Star Trek utopia but not everyone shares that dream. It will be more easily corruptable, less answerable and more remote from the people it governs. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jul 2021 11.54am)
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jul 21 12.05pm |
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I guess if remain had won, this thread wouldn't exist. We'd have a 50ft Mammy Merkel on the fourth plinth.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 1.42pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Centralised power is the only likely outcome of the EU. That means less people making decisions for more people and from a foreign country. You might see that as some sort of Star Trek utopia but not everyone shares that dream. It will be more easily corruptable, less answerable and more remote from the people it governs. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jul 2021 11.54am) Subsidiarity is not a word you hear a lot these days, but the principal ought to be at the heart of the way everything is organised. Some things are better when organised centrally. Others not. The challenge is knowing which is which.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 1.44pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I guess if remain had won, this thread wouldn't exist. We'd have a 50ft Mammy Merkel on the fourth plinth. Don't think that's the point of the plinth, although it would certainly attract some lively debate. And a few eggs no doubt.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jul 21 2.35pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Don't think that's the point of the plinth, although it would certainly attract some lively debate. And a few eggs no doubt.
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My final idea is rent it out to Costa, Starbucks, Greggs or Subway. They get bloody everywhere anyway. Teddy Eagle  19 Jul 21 3.51pm |
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My suggestion is to leave it empty as a symbol of the absence of compassion in the world, a comment on the void whichever celebrity has died recently has created and an indictment of the howling vapidity of the art world in general.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jul 21 4.00pm |
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I'd suggest a statue of a generic Northern European. Children will be fascinated to know what one looked like in the future when all the photos, film and books have been destroyed in order to rewrite history.
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| georgenorman 19 Jul 21 5.51pm |
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Alice in Wonderland would be apropriate.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 6.40pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
My suggestion is to leave it empty as a symbol of the absence of compassion in the world, a comment on the void whichever celebrity has died recently has created and an indictment of the howling vapidity of the art world in general. If unmade beds can be art, and a canvas just painted blue can fetch millions, why not? It's every bit as valid. Go claim your prize.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 6.45pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'd suggest a statue of a generic Northern European. Children will be fascinated to know what one looked like in the future when all the photos, film and books have been destroyed in order to rewrite history. Your disproportionate cynicism knows no bounds, does it? How long do the pieces stay on the plinth? Only a few months, I think. I think you can be reasonably confident that a few "generic Northern Europeans" will still be around when it's replaced.
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| Spiderman Horsham 19 Jul 21 6.46pm |
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Or we could commemorate the 500, yes 500 migrants ( mostly young men) who arrived by dinghy today
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cryrst  The garden of England 19 Jul 21 9.19pm |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
I don't agree with much that Wisbech says but i do agree on this occasion. I don't recall and I repeat yet again any brexiteer dismissing rejoining. The caveat is a set of terms that suit the UK. Not generic rules. That's what Cameron wanted and got laughed out. Had the EU bent to us we would still be in.
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