Topic

This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.

2020 US Presidential Election. (LOCKED)

Previous Topic | Next Topic

Page 20 of 442 < 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 >

Topic Locked

Badger11 Beckenham 23 Aug 20 11.32am
Bashing your opponent e.g. "anyone but Trump" will only get you so far. At some point the voters will ask what are your policies. Corbyn discovered that, for a while he was extremely popular (in the polls) and he was quite effective at Tory bashing. But when it mattered his form dipped as the voters started to understand and distrust his election policies. Opposition Leader and The Man In Charge are 2 very different jobs. One more point
Alert a moderator to this post

Badger11

Beckenham 23 Aug 20 11.32am

Bashing your opponent e.g. "anyone but Trump" will only get you so far. At some point the voters will ask what are your policies.

Corbyn discovered that, for a while he was extremely popular (in the polls) and he was quite effective at Tory bashing. But when it mattered his form dipped as the voters started to understand and distrust his election policies.

Opposition Leader and The Man In Charge are 2 very different jobs.

One more point

Alert a moderator to this post

Matov 23 Aug 20 11.36am
Originally posted by Cpfc1861 Biden dropping in the polls after his own convention. That is the Biden phenomena and why the Democrats are so keen to keep both Covid and all the current unrest so much on the public's radar. Biden polls great until people actually listen/watch him. Then it starts going south. Keep him away from voters and he stands a real chance. Otherwise not so much. Hence why I suspect they will attempt a switch before the election. Trump will tear him another arsehole in the TV debates. Absolutely slaughter him. But the election is going to be rigged. The entire US establishment wants Trump gone because it wants another major war along with continuing to see US jobs head south of that border. That is what they are paid by their corporate masters to ensure happens. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
Alert a moderator to this post

Matov

23 Aug 20 11.36am

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

Biden dropping in the polls after his own convention.

That is the Biden phenomena and why the Democrats are so keen to keep both Covid and all the current unrest so much on the public's radar. Biden polls great until people actually listen/watch him. Then it starts going south. Keep him away from voters and he stands a real chance. Otherwise not so much.

Hence why I suspect they will attempt a switch before the election. Trump will tear him another arsehole in the TV debates. Absolutely slaughter him.

But the election is going to be rigged. The entire US establishment wants Trump gone because it wants another major war along with continuing to see US jobs head south of that border. That is what they are paid by their corporate masters to ensure happens.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Alert a moderator to this post

Cpfc1861 24 Aug 20 8.02am
Originally posted by The Dolphin Trouble is that their 4 day conference was all about bashing Trump. Little policy stuff just roll out the Trump bashers which is madness. Trump has really ballsed up during the Pandemic but putting Biden in charge would be suicidal. No doubt he Ballsed it up but could anyone really have made a success of it let's be honest. The states is a huge country. Every State Basically has it's own PM there is a lot of red tape so much that any chance of dealing with issues like this as one nation becomes impossible especially when half the establishment are more interested in Bashing him then saving lives. Why save lives when people can die and make Trump look bad.
Alert a moderator to this post

Cpfc1861

24 Aug 20 8.02am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Trouble is that their 4 day conference was all about bashing Trump.
Little policy stuff just roll out the Trump bashers which is madness.
Trump has really ballsed up during the Pandemic but putting Biden in charge would be suicidal.

No doubt he Ballsed it up but could anyone really have made a success of it let's be honest. The states is a huge country. Every State Basically has it's own PM there is a lot of red tape so much that any chance of dealing with issues like this as one nation becomes impossible especially when half the establishment are more interested in Bashing him then saving lives. Why save lives when people can die and make Trump look bad.

Alert a moderator to this post

davenotamonkey 24 Aug 20 10.21am
Originally posted by Matov That is the Biden phenomena and why the Democrats are so keen to keep both Covid and all the current unrest so much on the public's radar. Biden polls great until people actually listen/watch him. Then it starts going south. Keep him away from voters and he stands a real chance. Otherwise not so much. Hence why I suspect they will attempt a switch before the election. Trump will tear him another arsehole in the TV debates. Absolutely slaughter him. But the election is going to be rigged. The entire US establishment wants Trump gone because it wants another major war along with continuing to see US jobs head south of that border. That is what they are paid by their corporate masters to ensure happens. I'm unconvinced. They brazenly (Brazilenly? nice!) fed Hilary debate questions before the event itself to give her an upper hand. What will the overwhelmingly anti-Trump media do this time to make sure the playing field isn't level? Other than hypocritically scream about their fake Russian collusion, when they themselves are colluding to influence the election. All Biden needs to do is not sniff little girls for a couple of months and try to complete sentences. If he can scrape through a debate with Trump, they'll claim he's not as senile as he really is, with the full force of media spin behind him. It's not like he's anything other than a seat warmer until the 25th is invoked to install the identity-politicians' choice.
Alert a moderator to this post

davenotamonkey

24 Aug 20 10.21am

Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey

Originally posted by Matov

Hence why I suspect they will attempt a switch before the election. Trump will tear him another arsehole in the TV debates. Absolutely slaughter him.

I'm unconvinced. They brazenly (Brazilenly? nice!) fed Hilary debate questions before the event itself to give her an upper hand. What will the overwhelmingly anti-Trump media do this time to make sure the playing field isn't level? Other than hypocritically scream about their fake Russian collusion, when they themselves are colluding to influence the election.

All Biden needs to do is not sniff little girls for a couple of months and try to complete sentences. If he can scrape through a debate with Trump, they'll claim he's not as senile as he really is, with the full force of media spin behind him. It's not like he's anything other than a seat warmer until the 25th is invoked to install the identity-politicians' choice.

Alert a moderator to this post

davenotamonkey 24 Aug 20 10.28am
Originally posted by Matov That is the Biden phenomena and why the Democrats are so keen to keep both Covid and all the current unrest so much on the public's radar. Biden polls great until people actually listen/watch him. Then it starts going south. Keep him away from voters and he stands a real chance. Otherwise not so much. Hence why I suspect they will attempt a switch before the election. Trump will tear him another arsehole in the TV debates. Absolutely slaughter him. But the election is going to be rigged. The entire US establishment wants Trump gone because it wants another major war along with continuing to see US jobs head south of that border. That is what they are paid by their corporate masters to ensure happens. I'm not convinced the LARPers of CHAZ and the violent anti-Trump activist scum in Portland, Seattle and... well, most Democrat-controlled juristictions are a particularly good advert for a Biden term (well, a Biden 3 months followed by a Harris term). The Portland DA is actively dropping charges against the scum each time they are arrested for ransacking and terrorising the city. They are literally out the very next night after smashing up the place and being arrested 24 hours previously. Want more of this Democrat law and order? Vote for Biden! It's not a great look. I hope they don't reign them in - it's a good indication of what the future holds if Democrats take power.
Alert a moderator to this post

davenotamonkey

24 Aug 20 10.28am

Originally posted by Matov

That is the Biden phenomena and why the Democrats are so keen to keep both Covid and all the current unrest so much on the public's radar. Biden polls great until people actually listen/watch him. Then it starts going south. Keep him away from voters and he stands a real chance. Otherwise not so much.

Hence why I suspect they will attempt a switch before the election. Trump will tear him another arsehole in the TV debates. Absolutely slaughter him.

I'm not convinced the LARPers of CHAZ and the violent anti-Trump activist scum in Portland, Seattle and... well, most Democrat-controlled juristictions are a particularly good advert for a Biden term (well, a Biden 3 months followed by a Harris term). The Portland DA is actively dropping charges against the scum each time they are arrested for ransacking and terrorising the city. They are literally out the very next night after smashing up the place and being arrested 24 hours previously.

Want more of this Democrat law and order? Vote for Biden! It's not a great look. I hope they don't reign them in - it's a good indication of what the future holds if Democrats take power.

Alert a moderator to this post

Spiderman Horsham 24 Aug 20 10.30am
Originally posted by davenotamonkey I'm unconvinced. They brazenly (Brazilenly? nice!) fed Hilary debate questions before the event itself to give her an upper hand. What will the overwhelmingly anti-Trump media do this time to make sure the playing field isn't level? Other than hypocritically scream about their fake Russian collusion, when they themselves are colluding to influence the election. All Biden needs to do is not sniff little girls for a couple of months and try to complete sentences. If he can scrape through a debate with Trump, they'll claim he's not as senile as he really is, with the full force of media spin behind him. It's not like he's anything other than a seat warmer until the 25th is invoked to install the identity-politicians' choice. Wait for the Michelle Obama nomination, in the not too distant future
Alert a moderator to this post

Spiderman

Horsham 24 Aug 20 10.30am

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Wait for the Michelle Obama nomination, in the not too distant future

Alert a moderator to this post

Cpfc1861 24 Aug 20 11.21am
Originally posted by Spiderman Wait for the Michelle Obama nomination, in the not too distant future Or Oprah.
Alert a moderator to this post

Cpfc1861

24 Aug 20 11.21am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Wait for the Michelle Obama nomination, in the not too distant future

Or Oprah.

Alert a moderator to this post

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Aug 20 11.56am
Originally posted by Cpfc1861 Or Oprah. Did she put Trump's mum's book in her book club? Wonderful literary critic. Red and Blue Army!
Alert a moderator to this post

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Aug 20 11.56am

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

Or Oprah.

Did she put Trump's mum's book in her book club? Wonderful literary critic.

Red and Blue Army!

Alert a moderator to this post

HKOwen Hong Kong 24 Aug 20 12.08pm
See if RNC can focus on issues Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
Alert a moderator to this post

HKOwen

Hong Kong 24 Aug 20 12.08pm

See if RNC can focus on issues

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Alert a moderator to this post

Matov 24 Aug 20 12.18pm
Originally posted by davenotamonkey I'm unconvinced. They brazenly (Brazilenly? nice!) fed Hilary debate questions before the event itself to give her an upper hand. What will the overwhelmingly anti-Trump media do this time to make sure the playing field isn't level? Other than hypocritically scream about their fake Russian collusion, when they themselves are colluding to influence the election. All Biden needs to do is not sniff little girls for a couple of months and try to complete sentences. If he can scrape through a debate with Trump, they'll claim he's not as senile as he really is, with the full force of media spin behind him. It's not like he's anything other than a seat warmer until the 25th is invoked to install the identity-politicians' choice. Biden is barely able to string together a sentence. He does not so much fluff his lines as lacking the cerebral power to even contemplate them. He is far to conventional a politician to cope with Trump. That is the point. Trump is smart. I know people want to slate him and so on but he has something about him which people like to see in this modern age. And the man can think on his feet and twist answers around to questions that should floor him. Biden brings nothing original or new to the table outside of polling well with African-Americans due to his association with Obama as his VP. It is why I am convinced his is nothing other than a spolier for the real candidate. He simply is not up to the job of President on a whole raft of criteria. Especially in these turbulent times. I like try to see beyond the obvious when it comes to politics but with Biden I admit that I am absolutely perplexed. Makes no logical sense beyond them using him to deflect attention and then the Democrats somehow pull a switch at the last minute. Perhaps have him drop out due to some medical condition that elicits sympathy and so on. Maybe they even kill him somehow. And the Democrats are more than capable. A truly horrible and ruthless political machine. But Biden in the Whitehouse makes no sense for anybody. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
Alert a moderator to this post

Matov

24 Aug 20 12.18pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Biden is barely able to string together a sentence. He does not so much fluff his lines as lacking the cerebral power to even contemplate them. He is far to conventional a politician to cope with Trump. That is the point.

Trump is smart. I know people want to slate him and so on but he has something about him which people like to see in this modern age. And the man can think on his feet and twist answers around to questions that should floor him. Biden brings nothing original or new to the table outside of polling well with African-Americans due to his association with Obama as his VP.

It is why I am convinced his is nothing other than a spolier for the real candidate. He simply is not up to the job of President on a whole raft of criteria. Especially in these turbulent times. I like try to see beyond the obvious when it comes to politics but with Biden I admit that I am absolutely perplexed. Makes no logical sense beyond them using him to deflect attention and then the Democrats somehow pull a switch at the last minute. Perhaps have him drop out due to some medical condition that elicits sympathy and so on. Maybe they even kill him somehow. And the Democrats are more than capable. A truly horrible and ruthless political machine.

But Biden in the Whitehouse makes no sense for anybody.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Alert a moderator to this post

The Dolphin 24 Aug 20 1.30pm
Originally posted by davenotamonkey I'm not convinced the LARPers of CHAZ and the violent anti-Trump activist scum in Portland, Seattle and... well, most Democrat-controlled juristictions are a particularly good advert for a Biden term (well, a Biden 3 months followed by a Harris term). The Portland DA is actively dropping charges against the scum each time they are arrested for ransacking and terrorising the city. They are literally out the very next night after smashing up the place and being arrested 24 hours previously. Want more of this Democrat law and order? Vote for Biden! It's not a great look. I hope they don't reign them in - it's a good indication of what the future holds if Democrats take power. You only have to look at Chicago - Democrat run for years and a killing field if ever there was one. Obama's home City and yet it is a complete basket case - not that the American media would ever tell you that of course. They just do nothing about it and it gets swept under the carpet. Trouble is that the President is not in charge of these things (by law that is) and so is hamstrung. Lori Lightfoot is the Mayor of Chicago and is in charge of what happens there - along with the Governor of course. Her twitter feed over the last few days is Covid and green project led whilst 64 people were shot and 5 killed just this weekend alone - but no mention of that anywhere!! They let it happen and then blame Trump. You cannot make this stuff up. A good friend of mine lives there and says it is a living nightmare even though he lives outside the main City. One bad white Cop gets the headlines - as he should of course - but the rest is acceptable and deserves little publicity in their weird world.
Alert a moderator to this post

The Dolphin

24 Aug 20 1.30pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Want more of this Democrat law and order? Vote for Biden! It's not a great look. I hope they don't reign them in - it's a good indication of what the future holds if Democrats take power.

You only have to look at Chicago - Democrat run for years and a killing field if ever there was one. Obama's home City and yet it is a complete basket case - not that the American media would ever tell you that of course.
They just do nothing about it and it gets swept under the carpet.
Trouble is that the President is not in charge of these things (by law that is) and so is hamstrung.
Lori Lightfoot is the Mayor of Chicago and is in charge of what happens there - along with the Governor of course.
Her twitter feed over the last few days is Covid and green project led whilst 64 people were shot and 5 killed just this weekend alone - but no mention of that anywhere!!
They let it happen and then blame Trump.
You cannot make this stuff up.
A good friend of mine lives there and says it is a living nightmare even though he lives outside the main City.
One bad white Cop gets the headlines - as he should of course - but the rest is acceptable and deserves little publicity in their weird world.

Alert a moderator to this post

Stirlingsays 24 Aug 20 1.54pm
Was amused to see that Richard Spencer came out and endorsed Joe Biden today. Probably attracted to all the rioting. Attachment: rs.JPG (63.74Kb) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
Alert a moderator to this post

Stirlingsays

24 Aug 20 1.54pm