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 Frickin Saweet  South Cronx 19 Feb 19 3.59pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Have seen several interviews with her today. No remorse shown whatsoever. Whilst I appreciate we all make mistakes particularly when we are young, this girl isn't sorry in the slightest and only wants to return for her own benefit. She's also says she's fine with beheadings. Utter, utter bitch. Needs to be made an example of. off with her head!
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Mapletree  Croydon 19 Feb 19 4.36pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Because her father was an extremist and did not pay sufficient attention to his daughter to notice that she was being radicalised to the extent that she was. If your 15 year old child runs off to join scum like IS then something has gone seriously wrong with your parenting skills. And you need loathing accordingly. Show me that her father was an extremist I can find no such thing on the wires All I can find is the father of another of the girls, who may have been. Do you also blame the parents when children commit suicide? Or self-harm?
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| ChrisGC Wantage 19 Feb 19 4.37pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
If you were to go abroad creating mayhem as many english people have done in history, I don't think it can be questioned that you are not still an english citizen, and international law is clear. Your country cannot make you stateless. England has been lumbered with far worse than this misguided young woman. Misguided? She went abroad to breed with a murdering rapist and be directly involved in a genocide. She kept this up for 4 years before defeat and self preservation forced her to come cap in hand back to her country of origin (which she hates). I think she's gone slightly more down the road of willing criminality than the word misguided can justify...
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Feb 19 4.44pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Because her father was an extremist and did not pay sufficient attention to his daughter to notice that she was being radicalised to the extent that she was. If your 15 year old child runs off to join scum like IS then something has gone seriously wrong with your parenting skills. And you need loathing accordingly. I don't know about the parents' beliefs and how they could have controlled their daughter or not. However, I do know we now have an IS extremist with a media profile. One that we can pity and one that other extremists can look up to. Edited by ASCPFC (19 Feb 2019 4.46pm)
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Pussay Patrol  19 Feb 19 4.45pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
This really is a silly comment If we act as DAESH does, we are exactly the same. I thought we fought DAESH - at least in part - specifically because it does things like that. But will it be deleted....
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
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| ChrisGC Wantage 19 Feb 19 4.46pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
This really is a silly comment If we act as DAESH does, we are exactly the same. I thought we fought DAESH - at least in part - specifically because it does things like that. Nonsense. We're not running about raping and pillaging, feeding babies to their mothers for a laugh, publicly beheading women and children or trading sex slaves. This is Daesh. Lovely sentiment, but just like your arguements, you don't win by a false sense of moral superiority.
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 19 Feb 19 5.25pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
But will it be deleted....
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| Pussay Patrol 19 Feb 19 5.26pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Nonsense. We're not running about raping and pillaging, feeding babies to their mothers for a laugh, publicly beheading women and children or trading sex slaves. This is Daesh. Lovely sentiment, but just like your arguements, you don't win by a false sense of moral superiority. We ilegally invaded Iraq and killed far more people than Isis
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| YT Oxford 19 Feb 19 5.27pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Given this some thought and ultimately it does come down to moral superiority. That is the point. We are better than them. For me the easiest option is to wash our hands of this girl. To strip her of her British nationality, to declare that she made her choice and now has to live with it. But that does not make it the right option. She was a child when she left. Effectively, she was a run-away. Playing truant from school. None of that excuses what she supported nor what she did but she is a British citizen and as such, has a right to present herself at our borders. This is not about being liberal or conservative. Right or Left wing. This is about accepting that a child made some s*** decisions and that she needs a chance to redeem herself. And that her own baby is an innocent party. Loathe her. Loathe her beliefs. Loathe her parents and her upbringing. I get, and endorse all of that. But the State has a duty to all of its subjects, especially those under the age of majority. If she decides to leave again, then wash your hands. But since she was a kid when she set off, a duty of care exists in my opinion. I'm confused. You remind us all of the duty the state has to all its subjects (or did you mean 'citizens'?) but then you suggest that this need only apply once i.e. "two strikes and you are out". How do you suggest that would work, or get past m'learned human rights lawyer friends?
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cryrst  The garden of England 19 Feb 19 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
We ilegally invaded Iraq and killed far more people than Isis I think we didnt do it illegally.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 19 Feb 19 5.45pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
We ilegally invaded Iraq and killed far more people than Isis Did we? Although some claim the civilian death toll rises into the hundreds of thousands (mostly courtesy of Isis after allied withdrawal), the initial invasion and occupation thereafter yielded around 5,000 civilian deaths at the hands of the allies (mostly air strikes) Isis have an estimated 3,500 SLAVES alone. I actually agree that Blair and his cronies should stand trail for that. What it's got to do with this f***er's immediate situation is beyond me though, care to explain why you've chucked it in? Are you saying her behaviour is forgiveable/justified because you believe there was an illegal occupation 15 years ago? Edited by ChrisGC (19 Feb 2019 5.46pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 19 Feb 19 5.49pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I think we didnt do it illegally. Well yes we are instrumental in starvation and war on civilians in Yemen, so why do we assume the moral high ground?
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