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dannyboy1978 10 Feb 19 7.52am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Well this is getting very interesting. This is a tiny snippet from the panodrama coming out on FEB the 23rd. [Link]
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10 Feb 19 7.52am

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Well this is getting very interesting. This is a tiny snippet from the panodrama coming out on FEB the 23rd.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 11.30am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC Whoa back. You need to Google Rotherham and Telford pal. It was literally thousands and police and councillors were in on it. Pretty sure a councillor is doing porridge as we speak. I am very well aware of what happened. What is not known is the underlying background strategy being employed to manage the long term integration of immigrants from other cultures. Too often we rush to conclusions that people are failing to do their jobs when they are actually working with restrictions placed upon them. I am not for one moment suggesting anything more than that we probably don't know everything. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 11.30am

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Originally posted by ChrisGC

Whoa back. You need to Google Rotherham and Telford pal.

It was literally thousands and police and councillors were in on it. Pretty sure a councillor is doing porridge as we speak.

I am very well aware of what happened. What is not known is the underlying background strategy being employed to manage the long term integration of immigrants from other cultures.

Too often we rush to conclusions that people are failing to do their jobs when they are actually working with restrictions placed upon them.

I am not for one moment suggesting anything more than that we probably don't know everything.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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dannyboy1978 10 Feb 19 11.35am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am very well aware of what happened. What is not known is the underlying background strategy being employed to manage the long term integration of immigrants from other cultures. Too often we rush to conclusions that people are failing to do their jobs when they are actually working with restrictions placed upon them. I am not for one moment suggesting anything more than that we probably don't know everything. Or is it an inconvenient truth for the left?
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10 Feb 19 11.35am

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am very well aware of what happened. What is not known is the underlying background strategy being employed to manage the long term integration of immigrants from other cultures.

Too often we rush to conclusions that people are failing to do their jobs when they are actually working with restrictions placed upon them.

I am not for one moment suggesting anything more than that we probably don't know everything.

Or is it an inconvenient truth for the left?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 11.36am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Part of the process is to investigate evidence from any sources available, not to ignore it because it doesn't fit with the political zeitgeist of the day. Of course but how do you know it was ignored? Just because it wasn't acted upon as you think it ought to have been doesn't mean it was ignored. I suspect that the authorities had information coming from many sources but, for whatever reason, decided not to take action at that time. Maybe as part of a bigger strategy or a lack of evidence. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 11.36am

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Part of the process is to investigate evidence from any sources available, not to ignore it because it doesn't fit with the political zeitgeist of the day.

Of course but how do you know it was ignored?

Just because it wasn't acted upon as you think it ought to have been doesn't mean it was ignored.

I suspect that the authorities had information coming from many sources but, for whatever reason, decided not to take action at that time. Maybe as part of a bigger strategy or a lack of evidence.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 11.52am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays Perhaps you should read 'Easy Meat' by Peter McLoughlin. Been out since 2016, plenty of accusations....not one court case against him. There have been decades of abuse that was unacted upon in over twenty British towns. What do you know? He's no more 'self appointed' than any other activist. Do you go around criticising all activists then? Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2019 1.21pm) I have followed this story for at least 20 years, well before it hit the headlines, as I have had some tangential personal connections. I can assure you that both the Police and social services were very well aware of the issue for all that time, but preferred to handle things quietly and without it becoming a media circus which just made things worse. That books have been written detailing some of the offences is obvious. Whether they are helpful is a matter of opinion. Robinson is not simply an "activist". I have no problem with activists who pursue causes provided they do so via channels that don't make things worse through inflammatory speeches, unlawful behaviour, intimidation or incitement to violence. I regard Robinson not as an activist but as a rabble rouser. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 11.52am

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Perhaps you should read 'Easy Meat' by Peter McLoughlin.

Been out since 2016, plenty of accusations....not one court case against him. There have been decades of abuse that was unacted upon in over twenty British towns.

What do you know?

He's no more 'self appointed' than any other activist. Do you go around criticising all activists then?

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2019 1.21pm)

I have followed this story for at least 20 years, well before it hit the headlines, as I have had some tangential personal connections. I can assure you that both the Police and social services were very well aware of the issue for all that time, but preferred to handle things quietly and without it becoming a media circus which just made things worse.

That books have been written detailing some of the offences is obvious. Whether they are helpful is a matter of opinion.

Robinson is not simply an "activist". I have no problem with activists who pursue causes provided they do so via channels that don't make things worse through inflammatory speeches, unlawful behaviour, intimidation or incitement to violence.

I regard Robinson not as an activist but as a rabble rouser.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 11.57am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dannyboy1978 Or is it an inconvenient truth for the left? How you respond to issues has nothing to do with what is true, or untrue. It is only to do with what is the most effective strategy and that ought to have nothing to do with politics. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 11.57am

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Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Or is it an inconvenient truth for the left?

How you respond to issues has nothing to do with what is true, or untrue. It is only to do with what is the most effective strategy and that ought to have nothing to do with politics.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 10 Feb 19 12.02pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle That books have been written detailing some of the offences is obvious. Whether they are helpful is a matter of opinion. Well sure, anything that isn't an impersonal fact is an opinion. This is all about worldview. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Robinson is not simply an "activist". I have no problem with activists who pursue causes provided they do so via channels that don't make things worse through inflammatory speeches, unlawful behaviour, intimidation or incitement to violence. I regard Robinson not as an activist but as a rabble rouser. Oh I see....'inflammatory speeches, unlawful behaviour, intimidation or incitement to violence'.......So you were against the tactics employed by the suffragette movement then.....against the ANC led by Mandela. Or rather you are quite happy when it's a political movement you agree with.....but unacceptable from one you don't. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Feb 2019 12.35pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Feb 19 12.02pm

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That books have been written detailing some of the offences is obvious. Whether they are helpful is a matter of opinion.

Well sure, anything that isn't an impersonal fact is an opinion.

This is all about worldview.

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I regard Robinson not as an activist but as a rabble rouser.

Oh I see....'inflammatory speeches, unlawful behaviour, intimidation or incitement to violence'.......So you were against the tactics employed by the suffragette movement then.....against the ANC led by Mandela.

Or rather you are quite happy when it's a political movement you agree with.....but unacceptable from one you don't.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Feb 2019 12.35pm)

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dannyboy1978 10 Feb 19 12.04pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Of course but how do you know it was ignored? Just because it wasn't acted upon as you think it ought to have been doesn't mean it was ignored. I suspect that the authorities had information coming from many sources but, for whatever reason, decided not to take action at that time. Maybe as part of a bigger strategy or a lack of evidence. Is this proof for you? [Link]
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10 Feb 19 12.04pm

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course but how do you know it was ignored?

Just because it wasn't acted upon as you think it ought to have been doesn't mean it was ignored.

I suspect that the authorities had information coming from many sources but, for whatever reason, decided not to take action at that time. Maybe as part of a bigger strategy or a lack of evidence.

Is this proof for you?
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dannyboy1978 10 Feb 19 12.37pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I have followed this story for at least 20 years, well before it hit the headlines, as I have had some tangential personal connections. I can assure you that both the Police and social services were very well aware of the issue for all that time, but preferred to handle things quietly and without it becoming a media circus which just made things worse. That books have been written detailing some of the offences is obvious. Whether they are helpful is a matter of opinion. Robinson is not simply an "activist". I have no problem with activists who pursue causes provided they do so via channels that don't make things worse through inflammatory speeches, unlawful behaviour, intimidation or incitement to violence. I regard Robinson not as an activist but as a rabble rouser. Worse for who?
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10 Feb 19 12.37pm

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That books have been written detailing some of the offences is obvious. Whether they are helpful is a matter of opinion.

I regard Robinson not as an activist but as a rabble rouser.

Worse for who?

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elgrande bedford 10 Feb 19 12.43pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Of course but how do you know it was ignored? Just because it wasn't acted upon as you think it ought to have been doesn't mean it was ignored. I suspect that the authorities had information coming from many sources but, for whatever reason, decided not to take action at that time. Maybe as part of a bigger strategy or a lack of evidence. They chose to ignore it because they didn't want to upset certain "communities ". How you or anyone else can deny this is nothing short of disgraceful. 1000s yes 1000s of vulnerable young girls where ignored in numerous towns and cities across the country. And left to the devices of a "community" who have no regards for what they were doing. This young girls were passed between 100s of men,who treated them like pieces of meat. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 10 Feb 19 12.43pm

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course but how do you know it was ignored?

Just because it wasn't acted upon as you think it ought to have been doesn't mean it was ignored.

I suspect that the authorities had information coming from many sources but, for whatever reason, decided not to take action at that time. Maybe as part of a bigger strategy or a lack of evidence.

They chose to ignore it because they didn't want to upset certain "communities ".
How you or anyone else can deny this is nothing short of disgraceful.
1000s yes 1000s of vulnerable young girls where ignored in numerous towns and cities across the country.
And left to the devices of a "community" who have no regards for what they were doing.
This young girls were passed between 100s of men,who treated them like pieces of meat.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Stirlingsays 10 Feb 19 12.49pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle The left truly hate Tommy Robinson......but it's their policies that created him. Now they seek to destroy him.....but if you can't fix the underlying problems....and of course they can't fix them.....then they can't destroy him. Because you can't destroy an idea.....Not without severe repression. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Feb 19 12.49pm

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The left truly hate Tommy Robinson......but it's their policies that created him.

Now they seek to destroy him.....but if you can't fix the underlying problems....and of course they can't fix them.....then they can't destroy him.

Because you can't destroy an idea.....Not without severe repression.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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dannyboy1978 10 Feb 19 12.54pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays The left truly hate Tommy Robinson......but it's their policies that created him. Now they seek to destroy him.....but if you can't fix the underlying problems....and of course they can't fix them.....then they can't destroy him. Because you can't destroy an idea.....Not without severe repression. They can get louder mega phones and scream Nazi louder, that could work for a bit longer. I recone there are a few on the left slowly twigging their policies and idiolidgies are flawed. But they are the qiete ones.
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10 Feb 19 12.54pm

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The left truly hate Tommy Robinson......but it's their policies that created him.

Now they seek to destroy him.....but if you can't fix the underlying problems....and of course they can't fix them.....then they can't destroy him.

Because you can't destroy an idea.....Not without severe repression.

They can get louder mega phones and scream Nazi louder, that could work for a bit longer.
I recone there are a few on the left slowly twigging their policies and idiolidgies are flawed. But they are the qiete ones.

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