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BelfastEagle Flag 24 Jun 18 10.39am Send a Private Message to BelfastEagle Add BelfastEagle as a friend

He is contracted to Chelsea so they hold the cards here.

I can’t see them wanting to sell him and I can’t see him asking for a transfer and losing his wad. So a loan is the most likely outcome.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Jun 18 10.41am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Exhibit Z of the problems within the premier league and English football. Something that’s never been allowed to happen in Germany since the 2001 1-5 thrashing we gave them.

Even stranger are the England tattooed Chelsea ‘fans’ caring about Chelsea way before England to the point England go backwards.

Our comedy and music etc may be far better than Euro countries to a level that makes us laugh hysterically at their’s but when it comes to running something to our benefit? Hmmm, only a minority.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (24 Jun 2018 10.46am)

 


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thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 24 Jun 18 1.56pm Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

At least don't think his market value increased after first half (5-0) vs hopeless Panama. Yellow card and one positive contribution so far....

 

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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 24 Jun 18 9.30pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Palace in the Blood

Having got international recognition he will want the guarantee of first team football. Chelsea with all their other players will find that hard. If he does not get these assurances he will push for a move. He may be offered a loan move but I think he will push for a permanent move unless this has a right to purchase clause.

So Chelsea have a real problem and because of the shortened transfer window a new manager may not have any real time to make a decision.

I think the best thing for RLC is to move on. He needs to go to a club where he will always be on team sheet and he is not yet the finished article so a top 4 club in my view is not the answer.

Chelsea have 4 options
1) Give him first team football
2) Loan him out
3) Sell and take profit now
4) Sell with a hefty sell on clause or buy back clause.

I think they will do the fourth as this gives best potential for profit long term

Why not possibly 1 then 2 in Jan based on whether they have a new manager for this season and how well RLC performs for Chelski , which might well happen after the World Cup when they can also assess how RLC does there and put in a new manager.

 


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pssguy Flag 24 Jun 18 11.00pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by kevlee

The semi final v Germany may well never be surpassed for my generation (I was early 20's) as the most important game England ever played. I've watched the game so many times and the reason they did so well was that they were a team. The manager had a lot to do with that.
It was a great World Cup.

and that Platt goal should have stood

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 25 Jun 18 6.18am

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Why not possibly 1 then 2 in Jan based on whether they have a new manager for this season and how well RLC performs for Chelski , which might well happen after the World Cup when they can also assess how RLC does there and put in a new manager.

I don’t see him in the Chelsea team at all.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (25 Jun 2018 6.19am)

 


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mja0003 Flag West Sussex 25 Jun 18 10.49pm Send a Private Message to mja0003 Add mja0003 as a friend

According to Dominic Fifield, RLC will stay at Chelsea, but may still be loaned out...

[Link]

One can dream of another 12 months

Edited by mja0003 (25 Jun 2018 10.50pm)

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Jun 18 12.02am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by mja0003

According to Dominic Fifield, RLC will stay at Chelsea, but may still be loaned out...

[Link]

One can dream of another 12 months

Edited by mja0003 (25 Jun 2018 10.50pm)

Best for him. He needs to play and he won’t play much in a top 4-5 team because he hasn’t really really proved he’s at that level yet. Maybe not playing centrally for us has delayed that proof a little but he didn’t perform for most of the season until the last 2 months with a bit of injury delay added in. I rated him from the Huddersfield debacle.

It’s sad that English players don’t get the chances but I’m not convinced he’s quite at the level YET to be making a place for himself regularly in a top 4-5 side to keep his development going.

 


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pssguy Flag 26 Jun 18 1.13am Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by mja0003

According to Dominic Fifield, RLC will stay at Chelsea, but may still be loaned out...

[Link]

One can dream of another 12 months

Edited by mja0003 (25 Jun 2018 10.50pm)

I can't see from a development point of view why he wouldn't be better off here than West Ham or Everton
given last year's experience. Of course, there may be a difference in the loan fee offered by club or he might be yearning to live in Liverpool.
It would definitely help to get this sorted with regard to other transfers as he would be an integral part of starting line up
I think the relative success with him and TFM holds us in good stead with top clubs - where the pickings are likely to continue to be a great option for loans

 

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Username Flag Horsham 26 Jun 18 12.25pm Send a Private Message to Username Add Username as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Best for him. He needs to play and he won’t play much in a top 4-5 team because he hasn’t really really proved he’s at that level yet. Maybe not playing centrally for us has delayed that proof a little but he didn’t perform for most of the season until the last 2 months with a bit of injury delay added in. I rated him from the Huddersfield debacle.

It’s sad that English players don’t get the chances but I’m not convinced he’s quite at the level YET to be making a place for himself regularly in a top 4-5 side to keep his development going.

I'd agree with that, he still looks a bit raw to me.

It's just a case of playing more games. You can tell when you watch him and Dele Alli which one has been playing regular first team football for the last five years.

 


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Brinscall Eagle Flag Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 26 Jun 18 1.37pm

If he goes out on loan again, although I would like to see him back with us, there is a good case from his point of view and that of Chelsea that he works under a different manager with a different style to ours. This will broaden his experiences and make him a better player in the long run.
Let us hope however he chooses us.
COYP

 

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premier fan Flag BR4 29 Jun 18 10.32am Send a Private Message to premier fan Add premier fan as a friend

Don't think he's been really taking advantage of his position in the team. He's strong and wins free kicks but had hoped he'd go past people more and his passing has been a little poor on occasions. My colleagues at work haven't been entirely impressed. On a positive note this will mean his fee will not be as much as we'd expected, if we get the chance to buy him.

 

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