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EagleinSF Flag San Fransisco 27 Nov 17 9.49pm Send a Private Message to EagleinSF Add EagleinSF as a friend

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

talk about missing the point! the tv pundits were all in favour of Mane going in 6foot high with his studs up so to me those `experts` don't have any credibility

Neither does a whinging t**t who refuses to see the bloody obvious

 

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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 27 Nov 17 9.53pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

I came originally to see the CPFC fans reaction to the topic and decided to register and comment because no one seemed objective as regards Dann making no effort to play the ball, which is a foul - or am I wrong on that too?

Yes, you're wrong on that too. [Link]

A direct free kick is awarded when a player commits any of the following in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
- Kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
- Trips or attempts to trip an opponent
- Jumps at an opponent
- Charges an opponent
- Strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
- Pushes an opponent
- Tackles an opponent

Or commits any the following offences:
- Holds an opponent
- Impeding the progress of an opponent with contact
- Spits at an opponent
- Handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)


None of this applies to Dann's mild brush at the shoulder of Niasse.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 27 Nov 17 10.03pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

I came originally to see the CPFC fans reaction to the topic and decided to register and comment because no one seemed objective as regards Dann making no effort to play the ball, which is a foul - or am I wrong on that too?

And yet your still here wetting yourself about some pundits and mane and a load of other s*** which has no relevance.

Guess what Dann stepped out the challenge and your guy went over like he'd been shot. Since when has making no effort to play the ball been a foul?

He done good winning you the pen, fair play. Although it wasn't fair play and he's rightly been banned.

Funny enough you won't find many CPFC supports thinking otherwise.

As for making no effort to play the ball being a foul... have you watched your team lately..? Not sure any of them have been making an effort to play the ball....

Palace been plying god awful football for much of the start of the season and yet I'm not off wetting my knickers on others forums. Get some respect and go choke on your rage with your own supporters. Your bleating here is gonna do nothing to change nowt.

Bore off.

 

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chateauferret Flag 27 Nov 17 10.05pm

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

I came originally to see the CPFC fans reaction to the topic and decided to register and comment because no one seemed objective as regards Dann making no effort to play the ball, which is a foul - or am I wrong on that too?

You're not still here, are you?

Not playing the ball is fine as long as it doesn't pitch in line with the stumps. HTH.

Edited by chateauferret (27 Nov 2017 10.05pm)

 


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Aolcpfc Flag Finchley, London 27 Nov 17 11.15pm Send a Private Message to Aolcpfc Add Aolcpfc as a friend

Tuttle clearly doesn't understand physics/ mechanics.

Tuttle doesn't need experts- he believes what he sees.

Perhaps some effort put into understanding about confirmation bias and the nature of (human) perception might help Tuttle understand how Niasse has deceived him too.

Tuttle appears to enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.

Tuttle you are absolutely right: seeing is believing, that is, if you can't be bothered to think.

 

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DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 28 Nov 17 4.54am Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

well it is a start, and better then nothing wouldn't you agree?

I strongly believe video refs and a revamp of the rules is the way forward but am well aware others may feel completely different about that.

Originally posted by Shifty97

Agreed, that is a real problem with the rule, it may deter players from diving but at the end of the day it does not stop teams or players benefiting from cheating


 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Nov 17 6.17am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EagleinSF

Neither does a whinging t**t who refuses to see the bloody obvious

Originally posted by Aolcpfc

Tuttle clearly doesn't understand physics/ mechanics.

Tuttle doesn't need experts- he believes what he sees.

Perhaps some effort put into understanding about confirmation bias and the nature of (human) perception might help Tuttle understand how Niasse has deceived him too.

Tuttle appears to enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.

Tuttle you are absolutely right: seeing is believing, that is, if you can't be bothered to think.

May I remind you that the forum's rules apply to all members of the forum, especially:-

•Flaming - We do not tolerate abusive, malicious, personal attacks on the message boards. You will be banned if you persist in this behaviour.

 

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 28 Nov 17 7.30am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

May I remind you that the forum's rules apply to all members of the forum, especially:-

•Flaming - We do not tolerate abusive, malicious, personal attacks on the message boards. You will be banned if you persist in this behaviour.


Perhaps that should be judged in light of the likely treatment one of us could expect to receive on a rivals boards? We have a board for Away Fans for a reason and, whilst I would never bother to post on another team's forum, I wouldn't expect to receive much brotherly love if I'd posted the views this fellow has on someone else's forum.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 28 Nov 17 9.03am Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

Thanks for coming on here, Harry. If the offending player had come to Palace in the last window things may have been different. He would have gone down in Evertons area more convincingly than Wilf ever did and Palace would be celebrating while you, Harry, would be on here complaining as we are.
But I would like to ask you what you think of this new 'cheats'prevention initiative? Are you happy the first club to fall foul of this new method are Everton? It's on record now. Nothing will ever change the fact an Everton player got caught cheating. Everton, a club much respected around the league are now in the same bracket as teams everybody accepts are a disgrace to the English mantra of fair but firm.
A bit of a shame, don't you think?

 

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Aolcpfc Flag Finchley, London 28 Nov 17 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Aolcpfc Add Aolcpfc as a friend

Thanks to Midland Eagle for alerting me to the forum's rules.
I will happily desist from/ not engage in flaming in the future- whichever of the two is appropriate.

First of all, however, I need to understand which of the sentences infringes the rule: particularly I must understand exactly what is regarded as malicious or abusive, or as a personal attack.

If the concern is raised about the point about Tuttle not being bothered to think is the offending phrase, I would be happy to retract that. To be fair he has clearly 'bothered' to think, but I believe his conclusion is founded on a desirability bias (rather than confirmation bias, which I now must correct given that the matter has been drawn to my attention) and that that particular cognitive bias has prevented his adequately informed analysis of the matter.

Cognitive biases are alive and kicking amongst all of us, be we football supporters or not: drawing attention to such errors of thinking might actually be of value in reducing the degree of enmity that arises from such debates.

If the concern is about my suggestion that Tuttle does not understand physics or mechanics then I am happy to retract that as a generalisation and say that in this instance it seems, on the face of it, that he has misinterpreted the consequences of the physical impact between the two bodies and has consequently drawn an erroneous conclusion.

I certainly did not set out to make any inflammatory comments and apologise to anyone that is offended by opinions.

I hope that my corrections are satisfactory and am eager to understand any contraventions on my part.

 

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chateauferret Flag 28 Nov 17 12.58pm

Excuse me. An away fan with a chip on his shoulder breenged in here and started banging on about how his player had deserved a penalty and we are all pyssyfooting about trying to apologise for being errm assertive with him?

He should have been politely but firmly escorted to Away Fans in the first place. (I did direct him there at one point, but hey-ho).


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Shifty97 Flag Croydon 28 Nov 17 1.42pm Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

phil neville is an idiot. those of you snowflakes that havent melted yet should forget about listing experts and pundits who are agreeable with you. the last major contentious incident in the league was Manes` challenge on the Man City goalie, those same experts agreed Mane was harshly treated as he `had the right to go for that ball` - really? Mane was 6 foot off the floor with studs up! 6 inches off the floor studs up is a sending off! so please leave out bleating `well they said blah blah`. Dann played the man not the ball, fact.

Sorry mate, that is a load of rubbish, Dann didn't play the man, he slightly brushed him with his arm, he didn't push him, he didn't even make a challenge, if you think that was a foul you obviously think football is a non contact sport

 

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