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We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

I new before the game should we get beat that would be an overreaction on here.

Memory serves me right Frank said at the press conference that today's game against Liverpool was two or three games early.

We'll be up to speed when we play Liverpool anfield next month.

Must of been hard also playing in conditions well over 30 degrees and high humidity also.

I mean the press conference the day he was appointed saying the Liverpool game was two or three games to early.

Some on here are convinced that winning was important today and so are upset. Given all the circumstances, this was an awesome result for us. FDB is bringing CPFC into a new era and I'm excited. It wouldn't have taken too many tweaks today to have seen Palace trounce Liverpool. Their 2 goals today were from errors from players who most on here already know have their time up. Any half-decent defender would have blocked the first goal that was Damo's error, the second was Kelly's error. And I add that let's not be too harsh on those two as it is still preseason, but they displayed their old form I'm afraid. Dann looked great, Tomkins was missing, we tried out lots of youngsters against multi-million pound opposition. FDB is a HUGE upgrade on Pardew and significant upgrade on Sam. I am very happy.

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Thanks and thanks direwolf also.

I read that when in defence the formation changes and he likes five in midfield with one up top. So that would make some sense if Liverpool had most possession.

Last season he strolled on the pitch as a sub when we were awarded a free kick, placed the ball by the corner flag and whipped in a delightful ball. Decent player.