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 Username  Horsham 22 Sep 16 11.15am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Do you think we're fully equipped then in defence?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Sep 16 11.18am |
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Originally posted by Dan1994
That is a very good point, but I think the fact we still had to play Dann and Zaha shows our squad depth is limited. The players who suffer from the lack of games in our squad aren't good enough for us (Fryers, Mutch and Sako). The only people who lose out are the youngsters, which Pards has made clear he doesn't want to play. In last night's squad, Southampton had 4 'Home Grown' players, I think the oldest of which is 22.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Sep 16 11.20am |
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Originally posted by Username
We are carrying Fryers that's why. If we had a decent cover and not him that would be enough and the concern for until Tomkins or Dann are back wouldn't be so bad. I bet we could loan him out for part of his wages. Now we're short he's not even a consideration so why in the squad in the 1st place? Edited by Rudi Hedman (22 Sep 2016 11.20am)
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| Dan1994 Wallington 22 Sep 16 11.25am |
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Originally posted by Willo
In last night's squad, Southampton had 4 'Home Grown' players, I think the oldest of which is 22. I meant 'losing out' by us going out of the EFL Cup, which doesn't matter for us as Pards clearly doesn't want to play our home-grown players.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Sep 16 11.27am |
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Originally posted by Dan1994
I meant 'losing out' by us going out of the EFL Cup, which doesn't matter for us as Pards clearly doesn't want to play our home-grown players. The ones closer to 1st team football are on loan so he can't. Choice of 2 league cup games for 4 months or week in week out competitive and physical 3rd or in time 2nd tier football to get them and see if they can hack it. Lampard, Beckham etc all had to do it.
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| Dan1994 Wallington 22 Sep 16 11.33am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The ones closer to 1st team football are on loan so he can't. Choice of 2 league cup games for 4 months or week in week out competitive and physical 3rd or in time 2nd tier football to get them and see if they can hack it. Lampard, Beckham etc all had to do it. Williams, Boateng and Kaikai have already done that several times, though. The few times they played for the firs-team, they looked up for it. Not gonna lie, but I'd rather Williams over Mutch and Kaikai over Sako.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Sep 16 11.40am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The ones closer to 1st team football are on loan so he can't. Choice of 2 league cup games for 4 months or week in week out competitive and physical 3rd or in time 2nd tier football to get them and see if they can hack it. Lampard, Beckham etc all had to do it. Lampard went on loan to Swansea and Beckham to Preston.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Sep 16 11.41am |
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Originally posted by Dan1994
Williams, Boateng and Kaikai have already done that several times, though. The few times they played for the firs-team, they looked up for it. Not gonna lie, but I'd rather Williams over Mutch and Kaikai over Sako. Boateng you have a point but for him to get a regular run he'd be waiting for periods of 3 of the top 5 midfielders to be unavailable. Then when one of them is back he's out of the team again whereas they can get 30 or more, hopefully 40 games on loan. We're almost in that position now with Tomkins and Dann out, Fryers being a waste of time and Ledley or Flamini possibly filling in at full back but Tomkins and/or Dann will be back within 2 and 3 weeks so Boateng would get 2 goes and out again.
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| paperhat croydon 22 Sep 16 2.04pm |
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Originally posted by cpj
1. typo - you know what I meant (aren't you clever!). I didn't say you did have a go at Mandanda, I clearly eluded to the fact that you would wait in the wings for him to make a mistake, then dive (pardon the pun) to the defense of your beloved WH whilst taking the opportunity to have a pop at Pardew at the same time. If any clarity is required with the above, please refer to your numerous posts on the highlighted subjects.
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| cpj Kent 22 Sep 16 2.43pm |
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Originally posted by paperhat
I didn't say you did have a go at Mandanda, I clearly eluded to the fact that you would wait in the wings for him to make a mistake, then dive (pardon the pun) to the defense of your beloved WH whilst taking the opportunity to have a pop at Pardew at the same time. If any clarity is required with the above, please refer to your numerous posts on the highlighted subjects. Then you are wrong, and you have me mistaken for Brentmeister General and his unnatural hatred for Hennessey. I have no feelings either way - I just want the best players for Palace and last season Hennessey was the best goalkeeper we had and I argued that fact. Now he probably isn't.
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| victor43 St. Albans 22 Sep 16 3.44pm |
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Originally posted by Dan1994
That is a very good point, but I think the fact we still had to play Dann and Zaha shows our squad depth is limited. The players who suffer from the lack of games in our squad aren't good enough for us (Fryers, Mutch and Sako). The only people who lose out are the youngsters, which Pards has made clear he doesn't want to play. I really don't see how they are losing out by missing ONE league cup game against very good opposition (chances are we'd still lose). So if they're not on loan and they're out of the cup, what do they do from now until Jan? Nothing! None of them are ready yet for the Premier League so they should be out on loan at lower leagues, which they are. If they are good enough he will play them. Wouldn't mind seeing Dreher in a couple of games mind but tough to know when to put him in.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Sep 16 3.50pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
We are carrying Fryers that's why. If we had a decent cover and not him that would be enough and the concern for until Tomkins or Dann are back wouldn't be so bad. I bet we could loan him out for part of his wages. Now we're short he's not even a consideration so why in the squad in the 1st place? Edited by Rudi Hedman (22 Sep 2016 11.20am) Fryers has been on the bench in the last two league games. Maybe he is back in with a shout of redemption.
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