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YT Oxford 19 Jul 24 10.06am
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Being entertained is obviously far more important than having any sort of principle about you. We will see when Tommy Robinson or someone similar falls foul of these nonsense protest laws - I’m sure you’ll get the point then. Regardless of their cause, the state imprisoning people for this length of time for non-violent protest is bad. Different people are entertained by different things. Who are you to judge? My principle is that people should be allowed to go about their daily lives without interference of this extreme nature. They haven't been jailed by the state, they've been jailed by the judiciary which last time I checked was independent from the state. And they haven't been jailed for a simple non-violent protest, they've been jailed for prolonged extreme action impacting thousands of people and costing the economy and the taxpayer millions. Oh and for contempt of court. I've no interest in Tommy Robinson so I don't know why you've raised that non-sequitur. Edited by YT (19 Jul 2024 10.07am) Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 19 Jul 24 10.06am

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Being entertained is obviously far more important than having any sort of principle about you.

We will see when Tommy Robinson or someone similar falls foul of these nonsense protest laws - I’m sure you’ll get the point then.

Regardless of their cause, the state imprisoning people for this length of time for non-violent protest is bad.

Different people are entertained by different things. Who are you to judge?

My principle is that people should be allowed to go about their daily lives without interference of this extreme nature. They haven't been jailed by the state, they've been jailed by the judiciary which last time I checked was independent from the state. And they haven't been jailed for a simple non-violent protest, they've been jailed for prolonged extreme action impacting thousands of people and costing the economy and the taxpayer millions. Oh and for contempt of court.

I've no interest in Tommy Robinson so I don't know why you've raised that non-sequitur.

Edited by YT (19 Jul 2024 10.07am)

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 19 Jul 24 10.06am
Originally posted by Badger11 If Tommy Robinson held up the M25 would people still say that is okay? I hate ULEZ but I don't agree with the blade runners cutting down the cameras that is criminal damage. The law should not pick its response based on whether you like the cause or not. I agree about the ULEZ cameras destruction being criminal damage. Some time ago a motorcycle magazine gave out free stickers that happened to fit the lenses of speed cameras. Not suggesting that is the answer but dustbins and IKEA bags covering the cameras is a better protest option. hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Originally posted by Badger11

If Tommy Robinson held up the M25 would people still say that is okay?

I hate ULEZ but I don't agree with the blade runners cutting down the cameras that is criminal damage.

The law should not pick its response based on whether you like the cause or not.

I agree about the ULEZ cameras destruction being criminal damage. Some time ago a motorcycle magazine gave out free stickers that happened to fit the lenses of speed cameras. Not suggesting that is the answer but dustbins and IKEA bags covering the cameras is a better protest option.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 19 Jul 24 10.12am
Where's WE , finger in the wind deciding which side to be contrarian. The disruption would have been terrible, violence is not any issue in the sentencing for this. Hopefully other unhinged cultists will wind their necks in abit so we don't have to release even more felons early to make room for them Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 19 Jul 24 10.12am

Where's WE , finger in the wind deciding which side to be contrarian.

The disruption would have been terrible, violence is not any issue in the sentencing for this.

Hopefully other unhinged cultists will wind their necks in abit so we don't have to release even more felons early to make room for them

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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YT Oxford 19 Jul 24 10.25am
Originally posted by HKOwen Where's WE , finger in the wind deciding which side to be contrarian. The disruption would have been terrible, violence is not any issue in the sentencing for this. Hopefully other unhinged cultists will wind their necks in abit so we don't have to release even more felons early to make room for them One lady caught up on this was trying to get to a hospital where her father was (as it turned out) dying in A&E. She now suffers from PTSD as a consequence. I regard that as psychological violence and there will have been many other victims whose stories haven't been heard. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 19 Jul 24 10.25am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Where's WE , finger in the wind deciding which side to be contrarian.

The disruption would have been terrible, violence is not any issue in the sentencing for this.

Hopefully other unhinged cultists will wind their necks in abit so we don't have to release even more felons early to make room for them

One lady caught up on this was trying to get to a hospital where her father was (as it turned out) dying in A&E. She now suffers from PTSD as a consequence. I regard that as psychological violence and there will have been many other victims whose stories haven't been heard.

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beak croydon 19 Jul 24 11.37am
Originally posted by HKOwen Ha, five middle class weather cult members will have a few years to mingle with folks who don't have Waitrose cards or are called Cressida and Cinnamon. Oh to be a fly on the wall for their first couple of weeks in jail Being able to name your children whatever you wish is one of the small freedoms left,polluting rivers etc by Mrs Thatcher has already been achieved. Edited by beak (19 Jul 2024 1.15pm)
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croydon 19 Jul 24 11.37am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Ha, five middle class weather cult members will have a few years to mingle with folks who don't have Waitrose cards or are called Cressida and Cinnamon.

Oh to be a fly on the wall for their first couple of weeks in jail

Being able to name your children whatever you wish is one of the small freedoms left,polluting rivers etc by Mrs Thatcher has already been achieved.

Edited by beak (19 Jul 2024 1.15pm)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jul 24 11.49am
What bothers me with this is that you see child sex offenders get lesser sentences. In fact, you see plenty of violent crime with lower sentences - or no custodial sentence at all. Should have been more creative with the sentencing, like a lifetime ban on hemp products or something. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jul 24 11.49am

What bothers me with this is that you see child sex offenders get lesser sentences. In fact, you see plenty of violent crime with lower sentences - or no custodial sentence at all.
Should have been more creative with the sentencing, like a lifetime ban on hemp products or something.

Red and Blue Army!

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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Jul 24 11.52am
Originally posted by ASCPFC What bothers me with this is that you see child sex offenders get lesser sentences. In fact, you see plenty of violent crime with lower sentences - or no custodial sentence at all. Should have been more creative with the sentencing, like a lifetime ban on hemp products or something. Make em eat meat. One more point
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Beckenham 19 Jul 24 11.52am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

What bothers me with this is that you see child sex offenders get lesser sentences. In fact, you see plenty of violent crime with lower sentences - or no custodial sentence at all.
Should have been more creative with the sentencing, like a lifetime ban on hemp products or something.

Make em eat meat.

One more point

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YT Oxford 19 Jul 24 11.58am
Originally posted by Badger11 Make em eat meat. That may well happen in prison Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 19 Jul 24 11.58am

Originally posted by Badger11

Make em eat meat.

That may well happen in prison

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beak croydon 19 Jul 24 1.15pm
Originally posted by beak Being able to name your children whatever you wish is one of the small freedoms left,polluting rivers etc by Mrs Thatcher has already been achieved.
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croydon 19 Jul 24 1.15pm

Originally posted by beak

Being able to name your children whatever you wish is one of the small freedoms left,polluting rivers etc by Mrs Thatcher has already been achieved.

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cryrst The garden of England 19 Jul 24 1.39pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Being entertained is obviously far more important than having any sort of principle about you. We will see when Tommy Robinson or someone similar falls foul of these nonsense protest laws - I’m sure you’ll get the point then. Regardless of their cause, the state imprisoning people for this length of time for non-violent protest is bad. I wouldn’t worry. With smarmies new rules they will be out in two weeks. Got to make room for tax avoiders.
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The garden of England 19 Jul 24 1.39pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Being entertained is obviously far more important than having any sort of principle about you.

We will see when Tommy Robinson or someone similar falls foul of these nonsense protest laws - I’m sure you’ll get the point then.

Regardless of their cause, the state imprisoning people for this length of time for non-violent protest is bad.

I wouldn’t worry. With smarmies new rules they will be out in two weeks. Got to make room for tax avoiders.

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cryrst The garden of England 19 Jul 24 1.40pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow I’m not suggesting all non violent crimes are equal - I didn’t think something so painfully obvious would need explaining. So it didn’t affect you then. If you were on the M25 for 6 hours you may feel different.
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The garden of England 19 Jul 24 1.40pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I’m not suggesting all non violent crimes are equal - I didn’t think something so painfully obvious would need explaining.

So it didn’t affect you then. If you were on the M25 for 6 hours you may feel different.

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cryrst The garden of England 19 Jul 24 4.12pm
Just maybe with my lightbulb moment this is a way to start jailing all protesters who overstep the line. A sort of prevention method. Next should be the Palestinian protesters out tearing up cities. Then all the way to TR and similar saying look it was good enough for them! Fact is stranger than fiction !
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The garden of England 19 Jul 24 4.12pm

Just maybe with my lightbulb moment this is a way to start jailing all protesters who overstep the line.
A sort of prevention method. Next should be the Palestinian protesters out tearing up cities. Then all the way to TR and similar saying look it was good enough for them!
Fact is stranger than fiction !

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