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  Hrolf The Ganger  15 Apr 24 10.20am |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
I think you will find it is the minimum qualification for admittance to both houses of parliament. No party has a monopoly on these qualities Thanks.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 15 Apr 24 10.29am |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
No one in politics has any standards but the amount she is alleged to have not a paid (reported at around £3500,) is so low that it would probably cost HMRC more y to investigate and sort out payment etc, so where would we be then moaning about a scandalous waste of public money. It is a fraction say of the legal costs the govt paid to see a Tory minister try to prosecute a university student for wearing a headscarf. It's all deflection tactics and smoke and mirror like most of politics these days Firstly, the police are investigating electoral fraud primarily, declaring the wrong address. Secondly, you think that if the amount is smaller then just let it slide, nice moral compass.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 15 Apr 24 11.27am |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
No one in politics has any standards but the amount she is alleged to have not a paid (reported at around £3500,) is so low that it would probably cost HMRC more y to investigate and sort out payment etc, so where would we be then moaning about a scandalous waste of public money. It is a fraction say of the legal costs the govt paid to see a Tory minister try to prosecute a university student for wearing a headscarf. It's all deflection tactics and smoke and mirror like most of politics these days Whilst I agree that this is being blown up into a major story by the Tories and the media we have had plenty of examples of the opposition doing the same thing to the Tories over the years. Sauce for the goose... Edited by Badger11 (15 Apr 2024 11.27am)
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Apr 24 11.28am |
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I'll miss Raynor - I thought she was pretty fit.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 15 Apr 24 12.45pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I'll miss Raynor - I thought she was pretty fit. Perhaps she has a ready made internet career waiting when she gets sacked.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Apr 24 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Perhaps she has a ready made internet career waiting when she gets sacked. I like the way she had pretty dirty language too. She could do one of those premium chat lines.
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| orpingtoneagle Orpington 15 Apr 24 2.25pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Firstly, the police are investigating electoral fraud primarily, declaring the wrong address. Secondly, you think that if the amount is smaller then just let it slide, nice moral compass. That is not what I said I pointed out that the low amounts mean that HMRC would not usually even look at it, it is simply not cost effective to go through what is a legal enquiry process, and if say they did spend say £10k to recover £3.5k a lot of people who chunter on about a waste of public money. Ok you can get on your high horse about principles but principles in politics on all sides are in short supply!
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| JRW2 Dulwich 15 Apr 24 4.02pm |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
That is not what I said I pointed out that the low amounts mean that HMRC would not usually even look at it, it is simply not cost effective to go through what is a legal enquiry process, and if say they did spend say £10k to recover £3.5k a lot of people who chunter on about a waste of public money. Ok you can get on your high horse about principles but principles in politics on all sides are in short supply!
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 15 Apr 24 4.45pm |
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I hope she gives thanks every day to Margaret Thatcher for giving her the opportunity to buy her council house.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 16 Apr 24 7.33am |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
That is not what I said I pointed out that the low amounts mean that HMRC would not usually even look at it, it is simply not cost effective to go through what is a legal enquiry process, and if say they did spend say £10k to recover £3.5k a lot of people who chunter on about a waste of public money. Ok you can get on your high horse about principles but principles in politics on all sides are in short supply! So someone who is potentially the Deputy Prime Minister after the next election should not be investigated for possible criminality. If no criminal offence committed but she had lied to the public is that OK? She should follow her own advice and resign if the subject of a police investigation.
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| The Dolphin 16 Apr 24 3.49pm |
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If the boot was on the other foot she would be screaming about it as would the media.
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cryrst  The garden of England 16 Apr 24 6.22pm |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
If the boot was on the other foot she would be screaming about it as would the media. You would though …. Dry
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