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Dubai Eagle 29 Mar 24 7.30am | |
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I would imagine both sides have been looking over the original contract documents recently along with any legal support available to make sure they know what's included in terms of any clauses relating to loss liabilities. Originally posted by Badger11
It seems the media is now asking why the taxpayer should foot the bill if Thames go under. Too right this is capitalism you can't privatise a company with the guarantee that if it goes bust the shareholders will be bailed out.
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Badger11 Beckenham 29 Mar 24 7.39am | |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
I would imagine both sides have been looking over the original contract documents recently along with any legal support available to make sure they know what's included in terms of any clauses relating to loss liabilities. JRM has tweeted that we should let them go bust and then nationalise it minus the debts. If there is a contract between the government and Thames that commits us to picking up their debt then whoever came up with that should be carted off to the Tower.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 29 Mar 24 7.55am | |
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It seems there is no public money to fix roads, pay doctors and nurses, or to keep our military up to date.
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Badger11 Beckenham 29 Mar 24 8.27am | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
It seems there is no public money to fix roads, pay doctors and nurses, or to keep our military up to date. Unfortunately the 2008 bailout of the banks was necessary as allowing them to fail would have destroyed the economy. Thousands of businesses would have gone bust as a result. That is not the case with Thames. There shareholders will be impacted but it will be the hedge funds and syndicates that will suffer and that is the risk they take.
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georgenorman 29 Mar 24 8.40am | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
It seems there is no public money to fix roads, pay doctors and nurses, or to keep our military up to date. I agree with a lot of what you say here. But shareholders are not necessarily the filthy rich constantly getting huge dividends. People (including me) buy shares as a speculative investment. You see a company that you think will do well, or you think is undervalued, and buy some shares in it - you then own a little bit of the business. Sometimes you do get some decent dividends (your share of the profits). Sometimes the value of your shares increases substantially and you can chose to cash in or continue your investment. Sometimes you lose practically all of the money that you invested. I've experiences all of these scenarios.
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silvertop Portishead 29 Mar 24 8.57am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
JRM has tweeted that we should let them go bust and then nationalise it minus the debts. If there is a contract between the government and Thames that commits us to picking up their debt then whoever came up with that should be carted off to the Tower. I doubt you'd have the private equity investment without that guarantee.
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Badger11 Beckenham 29 Mar 24 8.59am | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
I doubt you'd have the private equity investment without that guarantee. In which case "off to the tower" for the idiot who agreed that.
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cryrst The garden of England 29 Mar 24 9.45am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I agree with a lot of what you say here. But shareholders are not necessarily the filthy rich constantly getting huge dividends. People (including me) buy shares as a speculative investment. You see a company that you think will do well, or you think is undervalued, and buy some shares in it - you then own a little bit of the business. Sometimes you do get some decent dividends (your share of the profits). Sometimes the value of your shares increases substantially and you can chose to cash in or continue your investment. Sometimes you lose practically all of the money that you invested. I've experiences all of these scenarios. Alongside many of our private pensions I would guess.
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becky over the moon 29 Mar 24 11.15am | |
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"The value of your holdings may go down as well as up" Caveat emptor!
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 29 Mar 24 12.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
It seems the media is now asking why the taxpayer should foot the bill if Thames go under. Too right this is capitalism you can't privatise a company with the guarantee that if it goes bust the shareholders will be bailed out. It provides an essential service so government would have to step in if the company goes bust or to control price increases for the consumer which is the more likely outcome.
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beak croydon 29 Mar 24 12.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Wilesy01
I hope someone looks at the role of Ofwat in all of this. Another public regulator who have been utterly useless in holding these charlatans to account. Someone should look at Thatcher and her mad schemes,this decision and Selling Council Houses have bitten Britain Badly.The Water companies had all debts whipped out under going private, they have paid out dividneds by borrowing excessive amounts. Edited by beak (29 Mar 2024 12.53pm)
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Badger11 Beckenham 29 Mar 24 1.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
It provides an essential service so government would have to step in if the company goes bust or to control price increases for the consumer which is the more likely outcome. Of course but it doesn't mean we have to pay off the creditors.
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