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Eaglehamster Storrington 26 Feb 24 2.31pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Repeat offences generally mean harsher sentences, not more lenient ones. A judge would realise that but the FA?
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leejaneagles 26 Feb 24 3.02pm | |
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I think I read somewhere that we won't get a result from Everton's second offence or Forest's first until May, after the last round of fixtures have been played. Surely that is wrong? So we could potentially get 11 crying Luton, Forest, Brentford or (heaven forbid) Palace players all shattered and broken, crying on the pitch, fans sobbing in the stands, Chairmen readying to sell most valuable assets and then a week later - "oh don't worry, Everton or Forest went down instead". I really hope my info is inaccurate. VAR delaying things is bad enough but 1 or potentially 2 clubs getting relegated after the final day of the season would be awful.
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Spiderman Horsham 26 Feb 24 3.06pm | |
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“ shouldn’t be punished for lying” why the hell not? Flagrant disregard for the rules, the game and other clubs. Victims my arse
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Dubai Eagle 26 Feb 24 3.14pm | |
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I do hope that's not correct because if its not heard / decided until after the last game then those handing down the sentence will already know how hard any given sentence will effect the club being judged in terms of points deductions, league placings & ultimately relegation - They will of course hope that both Everton & Forest are clear of relegation by at least 6 points so they can appear to be being hard on them by points deduction without having to impose a penalty that caused a relegation outcome.
Originally posted by leejaneagles
I think I read somewhere that we won't get a result from Everton's second offence or Forest's first until May, after the last round of fixtures have been played. Surely that is wrong? So we could potentially get 11 crying Luton, Forest, Brentford or (heaven forbid) Palace players all shattered and broken, crying on the pitch, fans sobbing in the stands, Chairmen readying to sell most valuable assets and then a week later - "oh don't worry, Everton or Forest went down instead". I really hope my info is inaccurate. VAR delaying things is bad enough but 1 or potentially 2 clubs getting relegated after the final day of the season would be awful.
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dreamwaverider London 26 Feb 24 3.18pm | |
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Originally posted by RednBlue Eagle
Maybe the barristers costs will put them over budget for the next season! )
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Elpis In a pub 26 Feb 24 3.20pm | |
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Originally posted by leejaneagles
I think I read somewhere that we won't get a result from Everton's second offence or Forest's first until May, after the last round of fixtures have been played. Surely that is wrong? So we could potentially get 11 crying Luton, Forest, Brentford or (heaven forbid) Palace players all shattered and broken, crying on the pitch, fans sobbing in the stands, Chairmen readying to sell most valuable assets and then a week later - "oh don't worry, Everton or Forest went down instead". I really hope my info is inaccurate. VAR delaying things is bad enough but 1 or potentially 2 clubs getting relegated after the final day of the season would be awful. If the FA pull their finger out it will be Man City and Chelsea joining Burnley in the Championship . But what happens if they dont and sanctions on them two dont come in until next season ? Opens up a very large can of worms , the FA need to act faster
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dreamwaverider London 26 Feb 24 3.23pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Agree with this. I honestly believe Everton will get another 6 point deduction(along with Forest) but, also could be given a 2-3 point deduction as a repeat offence. The next hearing has to be done by April 8th(bbc sport). Then there is the appeal process. What was it for this one? Three months?
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Dubai Eagle 26 Feb 24 3.47pm | |
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With the government wanting to appoint a regulator you would think that those involved in the game would want to get their house in order sooner rather than later to demonstrate that one isn't required or to limit the number of areas any regulator has interest in / jurisdiction over.
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Feb 24 3.48pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Not how it works. As with all adjudication, the original decision stands unless overturned on appeal. As for Forest/Everton#2, the decisions should be based on the merits. These may demonstrate e.g. a far more flagrant breach justifying a harsher sentence; or otherwise. No idea. Thus, 6 points should not be the default sentence. And as for the time taken, I do agree, but these are new rules and procedures. They are still finding their way through it. But perhaps how it should work in future. Other clubs need to know where they stand long before the crucial games at the end of the season.
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stancummins 26 Feb 24 3.58pm | |
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I believe now the appeal decision has been made and Everton seemingly accepting it , the precedent has been set for the 6 point deduction for the first offence so the second charge for Everton and Forest one you would expect 6 points again . Rumours on Social media are that they will be handed out end of March , given that the appeal process has been used for this first charge i reckon that wont be used again
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Dubai Eagle 26 Feb 24 4.09pm | |
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Presumably each individual case has its own degree(s) of severity & mitigating factors, so whilst the 6 point deduction may indeed be utilised as a yardstick to gauge future cases I struggle to see it becoming a one size fits all / 1st offence cast in stone type punishment. I could of course be wrong, after all I don't know anymore than the next guy. Originally posted by stancummins
I believe now the appeal decision has been made and Everton seemingly accepting it , the precedent has been set for the 6 point deduction for the first offence so the second charge for Everton and Forest one you would expect 6 points again . Rumours on Social media are that they will be handed out end of March , given that the appeal process has been used for this first charge i reckon that wont be used again
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dreamwaverider London 26 Feb 24 4.10pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Not how it works. As with all adjudication, the original decision stands unless overturned on appeal. As for Forest/Everton#2, the decisions should be based on the merits. These may demonstrate e.g. a far more flagrant breach justifying a harsher sentence; or otherwise. No idea. Thus, 6 points should not be the default sentence. And as for the time taken, I do agree, but these are new rules and procedures. They are still finding their way through it.
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