We are home to Chelsea.
A 4 hour round-trip for me at a night game to witness abject dross - I think NOT.
My rump shall not make contact with my seat.

Far better for me to remain in the comfort of my warm abode and take pity on all our long-suffering supporters, suffering yet again at Selhurst Park.

Edited by Willo (04 Feb 2024 12.16pm)

I do not hate Roy. He did his job well the first time and absolutely did a job last season. He should have walked off into the sunset head held high with his legacy sealed. We all remember the dour end to his first stint so last year was a nice way to leave us all with rose tinted specs.

This year it is England Roy. Dour Roy who takes no blame for anything and says we don’t have the quality outside Olise and Eze. That is bollocks. We have one of the most talented squads we’ve ever seen. I’m not having it that they are not good enough. There are teams outside the big boys that would love some of our players. Yes we have a few past there sell buy date but in the whole there should be more than enough to finish at least 4th from bottom no matter about point deductions etc.

Roy has absolutely lost them. Would you want to put a shift in if you were ahamada and saw Richard’s getting a spot in midfield? If Eze isn’t fit throw the boy Franca in. He isn’t going to be less creative than what JS, Lermer and hughes have produced.
Apart from one game where he was clearly over excited to be on and playing he has looked a bit of a threat which we surely need. Like I say he can’t be worse than what has been going on. I could understand if we were keeping things tight with the experienced players but we are getting spanked. It needs to change and Roy won’t or is incapable of doing it so he has to go.

SP needs to pay whatever it takes NOW to get somebody in. Great if it’s long term plan but even a short term boost would be better than recycling the same s***e every week.

Now the bigger issue is why is it so hard to get a new manager in. What is SP asking of a new manager that means we had to go for 4th or 5th choice Vierra and then Roy again. That is a major concern but one for next season depending on where we are.

Money simply talks. Enough of it and you could get anybody because it’s business and every single manager is for sale at the right price.. it’s simply a case of how badly do we want to stay up or move forwards.

I respect your opinion Willo but I'm pretty sure this isn't the worst you've seen or a lot of the fan base have seen of Palace.

If ever there was a time that the club needed supporters to go, especially to home games, it would be now.

Seeing as it's probably the only thing supporters can really do to affect a game.

It may be slowly killing any enthusiasm of the game you or I have but I do think it really helps to have supporters behind the team in the tough times and make Selhurst a 'fortress'.

Fans can quite easily wallow in all the mistakes but surely it'd be wise to recognise that being at odds with the squad and whatever manager after the supporters have voiced their opinion, would be somewhat counter productive.

The irony might be that Roy returned to supposedly save us with 10 or so games to go last season, another manager might be appointed to fill his boots to do the exactly the same.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

I just saw your message on the Roy stay or go thread. Regarding pant wetting.

Could I ask and not looking for a slanging match etc. Exactly how far do you continue to follow under Roy. At what point and how deep in trouble does it need to be before it is no longer pissing our knickers as you put it and you see it as the majority now do?

I genuinely want to know because I would dearly love to be proved wrong and we be safe for another season.

Other of our relegation threatened rivals will be jubilant that we appear to be too weak to sack Hodgson and just relish the prospect of an easy three points when they play us,particularly if we are without our dynamic duo,Olise and Eze!!