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eaglerik1 22 Jan 24 10.52am | |
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could not have put it better Doombear Edited by eaglerik1 (22 Jan 2024 10.54am)
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 22 Jan 24 10.57am | |
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The money we spent on Franca and Henderson doesn't look like it wisely spent, but the lack of ideas, tactics, formations is down to Roy and he is not getting the most of what we have, and we know he is going at the end of the season, and i can only believe the choice of new manager isn't available or surely he would be appointed.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jan 24 11.00am | |
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I have believed that Ozoh has the attributes for some time. When he comes on he looks better than Hughes. As for the youngsters in general, we have plenty who play for their England age groups. We really should be at least on a par with most of the other Premier League clubs.
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slubglurge welling 22 Jan 24 11.06am | |
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Roys methods are not in touch with the modern game. Blocking defenders and standing with your back pushing into the keeper are commonplace these days but our players looked as if they had never seen it before. Roy should have been making our players aware of this but he clearly didnt as he hasn't all season at set pieces
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CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE bloomfield 22 Jan 24 11.11am | |
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Originally posted by beak
[Link] Bournemouth spent a net £126 million before the start of the season. Thing is, Roy’s tactics are ancient. He only knows how to play the Roy draw way. Never mentally conditions his team for a win, and it shows on players attitude (apart from Zaha who had so much self belief and drive)
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CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE bloomfield 22 Jan 24 11.20am | |
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Originally posted by slubglurge
Roys methods are not in touch with the modern game. Blocking defenders and standing with your back pushing into the keeper are commonplace these days but our players looked as if they had never seen it before. Roy should have been making our players aware of this but he clearly didnt as he hasn't all season at set pieces Concur. Game has evolved. Also with 5 subs, creative managers can add make on the fly changes to dimensions of play that a ridged, turgid manager can’t recognize or keep up with.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jan 24 11.23am | |
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Originally posted by CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE
Thing is, Roy’s tactics are ancient. He only knows how to play the Roy draw way. Never mentally conditions his team for a win, and it shows on players attitude (apart from Zaha who had so much self belief and drive) Last season Mr Hodgson had Zaha,Eze and Olise at his disposal, the football played was quite refreshing and surprised many who viewed the manager tactically as more conservative. This season of course Zaha is in Turkey and Olise and Eze have hardly played together.There has also been the loss of Doucoure. I will accept that only 2 home wins all season and only 1 win in our last 11 games is cause for wailing and lamentation. Edited by Willo (22 Jan 2024 11.33am)
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Oddball2021 Adelaide 22 Jan 24 11.34am | |
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Originally posted by doombear
The OP has entitled the thread "Don't Blame Roy!). Well I do blame him for what is in his area of control, namely, how he coaches the squad and how he sets us up to play. He wonders how we always seem to start slowly (and concede the first goal - as I've said elsewhere, something we did more than any other PL team in 2023). Well if your first aim is always to try and stop the other team from scoring instead of trying to score the first goal yourself, what do you expect will happen? As has been said by many, we are useless in both penalty areas when there are corners. Setting up defensively will (and usually does) result in conceding more corners than under a more progressive system. The game against Arsenal encapsulated this perfectly. Our full backs seem to have little idea what to do with throw-ins other than (usually) give the ball to the opposition. Rarely do we see quick throw-ins from our players or players moving quickly to find space to receive the ball. We have one of the worst shot-to-goal conversion rates in the PL. And what is Hodgson's answer? "Keep working on what we do in practice lads". Sorry, his methods are well past their sell-by date IMHO. Football has moved on and it's time he did - into retirement. Finally, YES, the board has much to answer for but that doesn't let Hodgson off the hook. Good call - I agree
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palace99 New Mills 22 Jan 24 11.40am | |
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Originally posted by beak
[Link] Bournemouth spent a net £126 million before the start of the season. The Bournemouth comparison is a good one, especially as they play the same formation as us - 4231, and are doing a lot better. When you look at their team there are only a few i would have in front of what we have at Palace - CF, RB and LW spring to mind. So clearly we have under performed in comparison. In terms of their net spend, this is a little misleading as their 2 big purchases - Adams and Scott were both injured when they signed and haven't had an impact this season. Their success is built on a mobile top 4. Many of their purchases have been in the £10m area, exactly our price range. Aarons is a busy little RB, similar to a younger Clyne. He cost about £7m i think and Sinisterra was bought on loan. Instead we bought an untried teenager from Brazil for an excessive amount and surely even the biggest Roy hater would not say the kid should be starting for us in the Prem.
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The Dolphin 22 Jan 24 11.48am | |
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I do not blame Roy for having a thin squad at all - that is down to those above him. Edited by The Dolphin (22 Jan 2024 11.48am)
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palace99 New Mills 22 Jan 24 11.48am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Last season Mr Hodgson had Zaha,Eze and Olise at his disposal, the football played was quite refreshing and surprised many who viewed the manager tactically as more conservative. This season of course Zaha is in Turkey and Olise and Eze have hardly played together.There has also been the loss of Doucoure. I will accept that only 2 home wins all season and only 1 win in our last 11 games is cause for wailing and lamentation. Edited by Willo (22 Jan 2024 11.33am) Agree, however, the real positive in that period was that Zaha barely featured. He was subbed before HT in the first game v leicester (at 0.0), came back for West Ham and Spurs and then was injured again v Bournemouth just after HT, albeit after a great set up for our first goal. So in those 10 games he essentially played 3 x 90 minutes.
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PatrickA London 22 Jan 24 11.49am | |
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Doucoure is a key loss. Originally posted by Willo
Last season Mr Hodgson had Zaha,Eze and Olise at his disposal, the football played was quite refreshing and surprised many who viewed the manager tactically as more conservative. This season of course Zaha is in Turkey and Olise and Eze have hardly played together.There has also been the loss of Doucoure. I will accept that only 2 home wins all season and only 1 win in our last 11 games is cause for wailing and lamentation. Edited by Willo (22 Jan 2024 11.33am)
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