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dreamwaverider London 10 Jan 24 10.35am | |
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I thought at the time Calvert Lewin was very calm while waiting an age for the decision. His departure was exceptionally graceful, which is rare. Probably because he was in a state of shock at such a poor decision. Edited by dreamwaverider (10 Jan 2024 10.35am)
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jan 24 10.39am | |
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I thought it was a red - no intent in it, but just a terrible tackling technique which is undoubtedly dangerous - he only made slight contact with Clyne and still managed to injure him, if he'd made any sort of proper contact it would have done real damage. Typically 'strikers challenge', but still dangerous.
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eaglerik1 10 Jan 24 10.43am | |
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just for a change, I actually felt a bit sorry for the ref here.
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CrazyBadger Ware 10 Jan 24 11.17am | |
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"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one" |
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eaglesdare 10 Jan 24 11.36am | |
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Amazing how we all seen the same thing and we all have different thoughts on it. I still think VAR and the ref made correct decisions.
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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 10 Jan 24 11.36am | |
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Originally posted by palace chick
There is was thinking it was a reckless challenge with his studs raised. How silly am I :-) Indeed very silly if they showed a still of every tackle in football you could make it look bad at some point
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jan 24 11.47am | |
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Originally posted by monkey
Indeed very silly if they showed a still of every tackle in football you could make it look bad at some point They can’t magically make your studs point outwards at shin height though - whether you think it’s a red card or not, it’s an awful technique to be making a tackle.
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Elpis In a pub 10 Jan 24 2.38pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
They can’t magically make your studs point outwards at shin height though - whether you think it’s a red card or not, it’s an awful technique to be making a tackle. I think (I may be wrong) the reason the appeal was upheld was because it wasn't actually a tackle but the player (CL) attempting to bring the loose ball under control .Clyne just arrived on the scene as he was wrapping his boot around the ball ,though granted he made a clumsy mess of it . Take Clyne out of the picture and Calvert -Lewin would be making exactly the same movement in getting the ball .
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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 10 Jan 24 3.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Elpis
I think (I may be wrong) the reason the appeal was upheld was because it wasn't actually a tackle but the player (CL) attempting to bring the loose ball under control .Clyne just arrived on the scene as he was wrapping his boot around the ball ,though granted he made a clumsy mess of it . Take Clyne out of the picture and Calvert -Lewin would be making exactly the same movement in getting the ball . Exactly this!! I cant believe there’s still anyone out there that thinks it’s a sending off, I know he’s studs are showing, but you can see what he was trying to do, he was just trying to wrap his foot round the ball, he didn’t go in with any force and it wasn’t reckless. If VAR is not sorted, the game will be non contact soon because players will be frightened to tackle because every challenge will be slowed down or paused at point of contact so everyone can scream ‘his studs were showing’ or ‘he was out of control’
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jan 24 4.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Elpis
I think (I may be wrong) the reason the appeal was upheld was because it wasn't actually a tackle but the player (CL) attempting to bring the loose ball under control .Clyne just arrived on the scene as he was wrapping his boot around the ball ,though granted he made a clumsy mess of it . Take Clyne out of the picture and Calvert -Lewin would be making exactly the same movement in getting the ball . Don't really agree - why exactly is it not a tackle? That feels completely subjective. He's stretching for a loose ball that is not in his control, and raises his studs into an opposing player as a result - no massive amount of contact, but it's dangerous, as evidenced by Clyne's reaction. If you land your studs midway up someone's shinpads, it's nearly always going to be a sending off, regardless of intent or much else.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jan 24 4.04pm | |
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Originally posted by monkey
Exactly this!! I cant believe there’s still anyone out there that thinks it’s a sending off, I know he’s studs are showing, but you can see what he was trying to do, he was just trying to wrap his foot round the ball, he didn’t go in with any force and it wasn’t reckless. If VAR is not sorted, the game will be non contact soon because players will be frightened to tackle because every challenge will be slowed down or paused at point of contact so everyone can scream ‘his studs were showing’ or ‘he was out of control’ If you want to avoid an allegation of your studs showing, maybe don't lead with them. If you had a still of every tackle in the premier league this season, how many of them do you think would be able to show someone's studs landing halfway up their opponent's shins? It's much less than 1% of tackles, and in nearly all cases will result in a red card - let's not pretend this is applicable to every challenge.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jan 24 4.12pm | |
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How many tackles can produce a still like this? His foot has gone past the ball, is raised off the ground, stud-first with a straight leg - there is plenty to moan about with VAR, but I don't particularly have an issue with this decision. Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (10 Jan 2024 4.13pm) Attachment: Screenshot 2024-01-10 161309.png (393.48Kb)
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