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Dubai Eagle 11 Dec 23 7.36am | |
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With immigration being a hot topic (as it has been for some time) to me this announcement feels as though its the government trying to broadcast that they have done something that's going to make a difference to the overall immigration situation, I dont know the specific numbers involved but surely increasing the financial threshold for which you can bring a foreign spouse to the UK isn't really going to make very much difference to the overall immigration numbers - Aren't illegal immigrants arriving in boats claiming asylum are by far the biggest drain on the economy / health services etc etc, sort that out & its much more likely to make a significant difference.
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Dubai Eagle 11 Dec 23 7.40am | |
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The Home office do request copies of bank account, P60 & salary certificates for applicants if there is a financial threshold component to the Visa application. Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
This doesn’t affect me so I haven’t researched the issue but do we know why the figure has been chosen? Is that what people are meant to earn to be self sufficient or is that the amount that will generate enough tax revenue not to be a ‘drain’ on the UK.
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Badger11 Beckenham 11 Dec 23 8.01am | |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
With immigration being a hot topic (as it has been for some time) to me this announcement feels as though its the government trying to broadcast that they have done something that's going to make a difference to the overall immigration situation, I dont know the specific numbers involved but surely increasing the financial threshold for which you can bring a foreign spouse to the UK isn't really going to make very much difference to the overall immigration numbers - Aren't illegal immigrants arriving in boats claiming asylum are by far the biggest drain on the economy / health services etc etc, sort that out & its much more likely to make a significant difference. This specific measure may not impact that many? However the big issue is actually legal migration. Post Brexit the government has encouraged foreign students to come with their families. Some of these people are rich high achievers but: How many bring their families? How many overstay their visa? How many do not complete their studies but don't return home? How many are doing mickey mouse degrees? Now even if the answer to the above is that they are all rich hard working high achievers who aren't impacting our benefits or health system the sheer volume is too high. A few years back there was the scandal over English language schools. People were getting visas to study English at bogus schools they simply disappeared. I wonder if something like this is happening now. As for the universities they are bitching that there is not enough student accommodation and the government should do more. Well they have massively increased the number of students to line their pockets but expect the rest of us to fund this. Edited by Badger11 (11 Dec 2023 8.02am)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 8.39am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
This specific measure may not impact that many? However the big issue is actually legal migration. Post Brexit the government has encouraged foreign students to come with their families. Some of these people are rich high achievers but: How many bring their families? How many overstay their visa? How many do not complete their studies but don't return home? How many are doing mickey mouse degrees? Now even if the answer to the above is that they are all rich hard working high achievers who aren't impacting our benefits or health system the sheer volume is too high. A few years back there was the scandal over English language schools. People were getting visas to study English at bogus schools they simply disappeared. I wonder if something like this is happening now. As for the universities they are bitching that there is not enough student accommodation and the government should do more. Well they have massively increased the number of students to line their pockets but expect the rest of us to fund this. Edited by Badger11 (11 Dec 2023 8.02am) This has little or nothing to do with the issue of British citizens being able to live with their spouse if that spouse happens to have been born elsewhere. Just imagine how you would feel if the person you love and want to spend the rest of your life with is banned from being with you solely on financial grounds. Would that feel fair? The issue of students is entirely different and has already been addressed in these pages. The rules change in January when only those on post grad research degrees will be permitted to bring family members with them. They pay fees, often higher than those asked of home students. International students will have their visa marked with “no access to public funds”, so won’t get benefits. They will pay the NHS surcharge. Overstaying is possible but why would they do it? They cannot access benefits and would never be able to go home. They aren’t illegals trying to hide from the system or asylum seekers. They have generally been sponsored in some way as their costs are high.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Dec 23 10.04am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This has little or nothing to do with the issue of British citizens being able to live with their spouse if that spouse happens to have been born elsewhere. Just imagine how you would feel if the person you love and want to spend the rest of your life with is banned from being with you solely on financial grounds. Would that feel fair? The issue of students is entirely different and has already been addressed in these pages. The rules change in January when only those on post grad research degrees will be permitted to bring family members with them. They pay fees, often higher than those asked of home students. International students will have their visa marked with “no access to public funds”, so won’t get benefits. They will pay the NHS surcharge. Overstaying is possible but why would they do it? They cannot access benefits and would never be able to go home. They aren’t illegals trying to hide from the system or asylum seekers. They have generally been sponsored in some way as their costs are high. And if someone's on the dole and they go on holiday to Thailand and bring back a wife then that's just fine?
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PalazioVecchio south pole 11 Dec 23 10.38am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
And if someone's on the dole and they go on holiday to Thailand and bring back a wife then that's just fine? is it feminism in the West ? overweight unattractive British women, with 4 kids by 4 different dads.....and they all get furious when they see a good looking bloke, Nigel from Croydon, with a pretty overseas wife ? a wife with no previous baggage. So the unattractive women will ban Nigel from importing a wife in the vainglorious hope that he will pick them instead ? somebody please explain the economics & demographics of this new Law ? are 'importers of Spouses' mostly male or female ?
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PalazioVecchio south pole 11 Dec 23 10.44am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
And if someone's on the dole and they go on holiday to Thailand and bring back a wife then that's just fine? what's good for the goose is good for the gander ? Literally. If Sharon is already on the dole, and returns from a Thai holiday, pregnant ( with or without the Thai kickboxer fella )....that's just fine ? The UK taxpayer can raise the kid ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (11 Dec 2023 11.21am)
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 11 Dec 23 10.48am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
And if someone's on the dole and they go on holiday to Thailand and bring back a wife then that's just fine? Depends what she looks like. If you've contributed toward paying for her, surely you are allowed a go? Worth the yellow if it comes BTW
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Dec 23 11.03am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Depends what she looks like. If you've contributed toward paying for her, surely you are allowed a go? Worth the yellow if it comes BTW "She" is perhaps too strong a word.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 11 Dec 23 11.34am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
"She" is perhaps too strong a word. Ha!
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Teddy Eagle 11 Dec 23 1.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This has little or nothing to do with the issue of British citizens being able to live with their spouse if that spouse happens to have been born elsewhere. Just imagine how you would feel if the person you love and want to spend the rest of your life with is banned from being with you solely on financial grounds. Would that feel fair? The issue of students is entirely different and has already been addressed in these pages. The rules change in January when only those on post grad research degrees will be permitted to bring family members with them. They pay fees, often higher than those asked of home students. International students will have their visa marked with “no access to public funds”, so won’t get benefits. They will pay the NHS surcharge. Overstaying is possible but why would they do it? They cannot access benefits and would never be able to go home. They aren’t illegals trying to hide from the system or asylum seekers. They have generally been sponsored in some way as their costs are high. There's a difference between spending the rest of your life with someone you love and spending it with someone who's been picked out of a catalogue.
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 11 Dec 23 1.23pm | |
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In Spain now to become a resident you have to be earning 26k as a single person and 32k as a couple. everything has changed since Brexit
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