i agree with all of that, except i would replace ambition with Resourcses

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

We're the only team Luton have beaten at home this season.
I doubt any of their players would get near being in our team other than Doughty.
Our team finished strongly last season and the only players missing from that period were Eze and Doucoure in the Luton game.
Two key players admittedly, but the current side is unrecognisable in terms of performances and this is unacceptable.
We're looking for excuses for losing to Luton and why a draw v Bournemouth would be a good result.

I'm not really blaming Roy. We're getting the Roy we already knew and expected. A 76-year-old leopard is unlikely to change his spots! I think I'm just deflated that it feels like we've gone backwards again when it felt like we were teetering on something really good. I do think the squad is too weak and said so before the season started, but my concern is our points tally is masking where we're really at. I think it's the wrong time to think about changing the manager, but I do wish for once he would just try and live a little. If it continues like this MotD will probably be asking if they have to show our games at all.

It’s quite simple really, some fans just can’t get their head around that we’re still little old Crystal Palace punching above our weight and are unable to compete financially. We have to play a certain way otherwise we’d get battered and end up going down. Maybe if we went down and kept the same team( which obviously wouldn’t happen) we could attack a bit more and create more chances, yes it can be dull at the moment, buts it’s where we’re at and where we’ll always be without a bigger better ground, a bigger fan base and/or loaded owners

Look at Burnley, brilliant last season, I bet their fans loved it, but apart from their game game against hapless Sheffield it’s all a bit different now, it’s all about survival, and it’s not pretty sometimes.

I know some think after ten years we should’ve progressed, well I think we have, apart from a couple of times off the top of my head we’ve never been in trouble at the bottom, we always do enough to comfortably keep well clear of the trap door

Edited by monkey (04 Dec 2023 12.36pm)

My argument would be that unlike us, there is no limited budget and a rather large choice of squad players or loans that could be called back to choose from.

If Roy had a choice he would undoubtedly have bought some old hands in to steel the squad, but Parish wants youngsters who are going to provide some excitement and have future value. The net result as you rightly say is Lerma plays, Hughes plays, Schlupp continues to play and Ahamada, Franca, Ebiowei, Rak Sakhi are constantly on the bench.

Its good perspective for sure.

And a good response to anyone who says that money is the answer.

However on the pitch its 11 x 11 as Luton showed us.

An away point at WH is a good result. If it had of been preceded by a couple of wins we'd be sitting in the top half looking forward to Bmouth.