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PalazioVecchio south pole 27 Oct 23 2.23pm
Originally posted by HKOwen Oh dear, the man with no beliefs attempts to woo the millions of muslim voters and ends up doing the opposite. he need not bother. The main policy of the Tories is to cut benefits. And also to cut taxes for those working but who do not work in the black economy. votes to the Labour party are a given. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by HKOwen

Oh dear, the man with no beliefs attempts to woo the millions of muslim voters and ends up doing the opposite.

he need not bother. The main policy of the Tories is to cut benefits. And also to cut taxes for those working but who do not work in the black economy.

votes to the Labour party are a given.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Matov 27 Oct 23 2.33pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio votes to the Labour party are a given. To a point. Tower Hamlets shows that this does not always stay that way. I appreciate taking an interest in the local politics for a place like Tower Hamlets is not everybodies cup of tea BUT if you want a potential snap-shop of how an element of British politics might pan out in the future then it offers an interesting insight. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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27 Oct 23 2.33pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

votes to the Labour party are a given.

To a point. Tower Hamlets shows that this does not always stay that way.

I appreciate taking an interest in the local politics for a place like Tower Hamlets is not everybodies cup of tea BUT if you want a potential snap-shop of how an element of British politics might pan out in the future then it offers an interesting insight.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 27 Oct 23 3.00pm
the opening paragraph of the report in the link below..... "Muslims currently constitute 3 per cent of the UK population.2 Census statistics show that Muslims, as a whole, are by far the most disadvantaged faith group in the UK labour market. Muslims are three times more likely to be unemployed than the majority Christian group. They have the lowest employment rate of any group, at 38 per cent, and the highest economic inactivity rate, at 52 per cent. At 17 per cent, Muslims represent the largest faith group who have never worked or are long term unemployed, as compared to three per cent of the overall population. Over half of Muslims are economically inactive, compared to a third of all other faith groups. At 68 per cent, Muslim women have the highest level of economic inactivity amongst all faith groups." Not very likely to vote Tory then ? [Link] Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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the opening paragraph of the report in the link below.....

"Muslims currently constitute 3 per cent of the UK population.2 Census statistics show
that Muslims, as a whole, are by far the most disadvantaged faith group in the UK labour
market. Muslims are three times more likely to be unemployed than the majority
Christian group.

They have the lowest employment rate of any group, at 38 per cent, and the highest economic inactivity rate, at 52 per cent.
At 17 per cent, Muslims represent the largest faith group who have never worked or are long term unemployed, as compared to three per cent of the overall population.

Over half of Muslims are economically inactive, compared to a third of all other faith groups.
At 68 per cent, Muslim women have the highest level of economic inactivity amongst
all faith groups."

Not very likely to vote Tory then ?

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Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Matov 27 Oct 23 6.05pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Not very likely to vote Tory then ? [Link] Depends. If we actually had a real Conservative Party, then they would probably have a lot more in common with them, in terms of social values, than Labour. But we don't. What Muslims have is high attendance rates at Mosques. Which gives them organising power. They already have a level of political muscle at a local level that is way out of proportion to their numbers at a national level. The links between grooming scandals, carousel fraud and the heroin trade and pakistani Labour Politicians is a genuine hidden scandal/risk. Ditto with Scotland where one of them is the actual leader. Muslims and Labour is literally a marriage of convenience that will struggle to last the next 10 or so years. And they won't switch to the Tories due to the level of Hindu/Sikh support they receive meaning they will probably go with their own political party. Edited by Matov (27 Oct 2023 6.06pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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27 Oct 23 6.05pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Not very likely to vote Tory then ?

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Depends. If we actually had a real Conservative Party, then they would probably have a lot more in common with them, in terms of social values, than Labour. But we don't.

What Muslims have is high attendance rates at Mosques. Which gives them organising power. They already have a level of political muscle at a local level that is way out of proportion to their numbers at a national level. The links between grooming scandals, carousel fraud and the heroin trade and pakistani Labour Politicians is a genuine hidden scandal/risk. Ditto with Scotland where one of them is the actual leader.

Muslims and Labour is literally a marriage of convenience that will struggle to last the next 10 or so years. And they won't switch to the Tories due to the level of Hindu/Sikh support they receive meaning they will probably go with their own political party.

Edited by Matov (27 Oct 2023 6.06pm)

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eritheagle Erith 27 Oct 23 6.10pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio the opening paragraph of the report in the link below..... "Muslims currently constitute 3 per cent of the UK population.2 Census statistics show that Muslims, as a whole, are by far the most disadvantaged faith group in the UK labour market. Muslims are three times more likely to be unemployed than the majority Christian group. They have the lowest employment rate of any group, at 38 per cent, and the highest economic inactivity rate, at 52 per cent. At 17 per cent, Muslims represent the largest faith group who have never worked or are long term unemployed, as compared to three per cent of the overall population. Over half of Muslims are economically inactive, compared to a third of all other faith groups. At 68 per cent, Muslim women have the highest level of economic inactivity amongst all faith groups." Not very likely to vote Tory then ? [Link] How many of these women are unemployed cos their blokes won't let them go to work though?
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Erith 27 Oct 23 6.10pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the opening paragraph of the report in the link below.....

Over half of Muslims are economically inactive, compared to a third of all other faith groups.
At 68 per cent, Muslim women have the highest level of economic inactivity amongst
all faith groups."

Not very likely to vote Tory then ?

[Link]

How many of these women are unemployed cos their blokes won't let them go to work though?

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Stirlingsays 27 Oct 23 6.41pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio the opening paragraph of the report in the link below..... "Muslims currently constitute 3 per cent of the UK population.2 Census statistics show that Muslims, as a whole, are by far the most disadvantaged faith group in the UK labour market. Muslims are three times more likely to be unemployed than the majority Christian group. They have the lowest employment rate of any group, at 38 per cent, and the highest economic inactivity rate, at 52 per cent. At 17 per cent, Muslims represent the largest faith group who have never worked or are long term unemployed, as compared to three per cent of the overall population. Over half of Muslims are economically inactive, compared to a third of all other faith groups. At 68 per cent, Muslim women have the highest level of economic inactivity amongst all faith groups." Not very likely to vote Tory then ? [Link] That's from 2004, I think it's up to 8 percent now....though I regard that as an underestimate of the true figures. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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27 Oct 23 6.41pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the opening paragraph of the report in the link below.....

Over half of Muslims are economically inactive, compared to a third of all other faith groups.
At 68 per cent, Muslim women have the highest level of economic inactivity amongst
all faith groups."

Not very likely to vote Tory then ?

[Link]

That's from 2004, I think it's up to 8 percent now....though I regard that as an underestimate of the true figures.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Matov 27 Oct 23 6.58pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays That's from 2004, I think it's up to 8 percent now....though I regard that as an underestimate of the true figures. Agree. And it is concentrated and organised. The real story, outside of the terrible abuse itself, behind the grooming scandals is how political interests colluded (and I include the local police in this) to pretend it was not happening. The issue was not the fear of being called racist but rather how Muslim communities had given Labour control of specific councils via mass postal votes collated through the Mosques. That is why the s*** was ignored. Labour literally allowed white girls to be raped because it gave them power. One day there will be a reckoning. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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27 Oct 23 6.58pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's from 2004, I think it's up to 8 percent now....though I regard that as an underestimate of the true figures.

Agree. And it is concentrated and organised. The real story, outside of the terrible abuse itself, behind the grooming scandals is how political interests colluded (and I include the local police in this) to pretend it was not happening.

The issue was not the fear of being called racist but rather how Muslim communities had given Labour control of specific councils via mass postal votes collated through the Mosques. That is why the s*** was ignored. Labour literally allowed white girls to be raped because it gave them power.

One day there will be a reckoning.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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cryrst The garden of England 27 Oct 23 7.18pm
Originally posted by eritheagle How many of these women are unemployed cos their blokes won't let them go to work though? Cos they’re too pretty for us whiteys
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The garden of England 27 Oct 23 7.18pm

Originally posted by eritheagle

How many of these women are unemployed cos their blokes won't let them go to work though?

Cos they’re too pretty for us whiteys

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PalazioVecchio south pole 27 Oct 23 7.32pm
Originally posted by eritheagle How many of these women are unemployed cos their blokes won't let them go to work though? How many of these women are unemployed cos they arrived into the uk in their teens, for an arranged marriage, and never bothered to learn to speak English ? work a career ? or even a part-time job ? Plus an absence of delayed motherhood. The maternal choices seen with the women's England football team.....not much in evidence among the women relevant to the title of the OP ? Labour voters all. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 27 Oct 23 7.32pm

Originally posted by eritheagle

How many of these women are unemployed cos their blokes won't let them go to work though?

How many of these women are unemployed cos they arrived into the uk in their teens, for an arranged marriage, and never bothered to learn to speak English ?
work a career ? or even a part-time job ?
Plus an absence of delayed motherhood. The maternal choices seen with the women's England football team.....not much in evidence among the women relevant to the title of the OP ?

Labour voters all.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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eritheagle Erith 27 Oct 23 7.53pm
Originally posted by cryrst Cos they’re too pretty for us whiteys Some of them have lovely eyes. Only bit on show though.
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Erith 27 Oct 23 7.53pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Cos they’re too pretty for us whiteys

Some of them have lovely eyes. Only bit on show though.

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cryrst The garden of England 27 Oct 23 10.39pm
Originally posted by eritheagle Some of them have lovely eyes. Only bit on show though. Indian chicks are a lot prettier and they don’t want to kill us or hate us.
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The garden of England 27 Oct 23 10.39pm

Originally posted by eritheagle

Some of them have lovely eyes. Only bit on show though.

Indian chicks are a lot prettier and they don’t want to kill us or hate us.

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eritheagle Erith 27 Oct 23 11.03pm
Originally posted by cryrst Indian chicks are a lot prettier and they don’t want to kill us or hate us. I agree but I was making light of the fact some of them wear burkas.
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Erith 27 Oct 23 11.03pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Indian chicks are a lot prettier and they don’t want to kill us or hate us.

I agree but I was making light of the fact some of them wear burkas.

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