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georgenorman 05 Oct 23 9.22am | |
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They should ban chewing gum.
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Oct 23 9.25am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Really that just about sums up what the tories have left to offer. Millions of smokers asylum seekers benefit claimants etc. Smoking has been dying out for years, to our great benefit. It doesn't need banning.
It isn't being banned. Another daft comment. It is sensible and will save lives and money. To paraphrase Lennon. Sir Walter Raleigh was a stupid git.
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Teddy Eagle 05 Oct 23 9.36am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I've always thought it would be a matter of time. I smoke but very few. Probably not even five a day. I should give up but still get the cravings. Going to the pub is the issue - I might smoke ten - twenty then. Same as you AS, beer and cigarettes go together and, in my case, have for nearly 50 years so, for me, pubs just haven't been the same since the ban.
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eaglesdare 05 Oct 23 9.39am | |
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Smoking breaks at work should also be banned.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 05 Oct 23 12.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
a condition called Popcorn lung. ....and on that subject. It turns out that burnt popcorn, and especially microwave popcorn....very carcinogenic. i heard some expert saying something like ''obesity is the new smoking".........meaning, everybody is doing obesity an few fully understand just how deadly it is. And again, very addictive.
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Stirlingsays 05 Oct 23 12.34pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
....and on that subject. It turns out that burnt popcorn, and especially microwave popcorn....very carcinogenic. i heard some expert saying something like ''obesity is the new smoking".........meaning, everybody is doing obesity an few fully understand just how deadly it is. And again, very addictive. Yum...yum...slurp...munch...yum....Eeek!...crash....dead.
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Oct 23 12.50pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
....and on that subject. It turns out that burnt popcorn, and especially microwave popcorn....very carcinogenic. i heard some expert saying something like ''obesity is the new smoking".........meaning, everybody is doing obesity an few fully understand just how deadly it is. And again, very addictive. For sure, drinking alcohol and obesity are likely to impact on health. Specific food stuffs might be shown to be risk factors if enough proper studies are done. That really doesn't impact on the sense of phasing out something that is proven beyond doubt to shorten lifespan and cost the NHS a fortune.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 05 Oct 23 1.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
For sure, drinking alcohol and obesity are likely to impact on health. Specific food stuffs might be shown to be risk factors if enough proper studies are done. most Muslim countries have excellent statistics for the incidence of Cancer. UK & Ireland ? abysmal. the Fasting, of Ramadan, is an excellent protection against obesity.....it fights against insulin-resistance. Intermittent-fasting in all but name. Not sure about smoking. Every muslim village i ever visited has a ton of lads hanging out at the cafe, drinking mint tea, many smoking various things. And not boozing alcohol. Often playing dominoes, chess, cards, or other pursuits. Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 Oct 2023 1.34pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Oct 23 1.53pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
most Muslim countries have excellent statistics for the incidence of Cancer. UK & Ireland ? abysmal. the Fasting, of Ramadan, is an excellent protection against obesity.....it fights against insulin-resistance. Intermittent-fasting in all but name. Not sure about smoking. Every muslim village i ever visited has a ton of lads hanging out at the cafe, drinking mint tea, many smoking various things. And not boozing alcohol. Often playing dominoes, chess, cards, or other pursuits. Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 Oct 2023 1.34pm) Nice anecdote, but that doesn't really prove much. People die young as a direct result of smoking. Believe it.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Oct 23 2.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Nice anecdote, but that doesn't really prove much. People die young as a direct result of smoking. Believe it. Just read this thread. It’s a rarity I know but I completely agree with your analysis. Not just this post but all of them.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 05 Oct 23 6.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
A study quoted in the BMJ We studied mortality, paid income and tobacco taxes, and the cumulative costs due to pensions and medical care among tobacco smoking and non-smoking individuals in a 27-year prospective cohort study of 1976 men from Eastern Finland. These individuals were 54–60 years old at the beginning of the follow-up Smoking was associated with a greater mean annual healthcare cost of €1600 per living individual during follow-up. However, due to a shorter lifespan of 8.6 years, smokers’ mean total healthcare costs during the entire study period were actually €4700 lower than for non-smokers. For the same reason, each smoker missed 7.3 years (€126 850) of pension. Overall, smokers’ average net contribution to the public finance balance was €133 800 greater per individual compared with non-smokers. However, if each lost quality adjusted life year is considered to be worth €22 200, the net effect is reversed to be €70 200 (€71.600 when adjusted with propensity score) per individual in favour of non-smoking. My sister died suddenly two months ago from lung and stomach cancer due to smoking. I wish she had lived the extra 8.6 years. Edited by Mapletree (04 Oct 2023 11.55pm) My sincere condolences to you and your family.
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YT Oxford 05 Oct 23 9.13pm | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Smoking breaks at work should also be banned. What pissed me off when I worked in an office was how few working breaks the smokers used to take while the rest of us barely had time to go to the 'John'.
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