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 Texas Eagle  San Antonio, Texas (via Adelaide) 02 Oct 23 4.15pm |
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Law 5 (3)b says the referees' decision on points of FACT will be final. At a stretch, if Hooper said Luis was offside then according to his "fact" he was offside. The fact that VAR was available to highlight this cockup might mute this authority substantially. I wonder if this happened in say a Luton vs. Burnley match if it would have got all this attention. Doesn't excuse the complete screw up that occurred though.
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Elpis  In a pub 02 Oct 23 5.23pm |
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well one good things come out of it . Liverpool windging that its not fair ,we want a replay , fans want a refund . Paybacks a bitch
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CPFC Dartford  Dartford 02 Oct 23 6.22pm |
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Will be pleased if that arrogant arse never referees again!
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| Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 02 Oct 23 6.45pm |
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I cannot believe the bollox around they thought the goal was given on the pitch? Are they not watching the game? I reckon he was taking a leak or something.
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| Palace 1979 Surrey 02 Oct 23 7.43pm |
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I think there are 3 things that could be done to improve things as VAR could work with the right people involved and a change of how it's used. 1) have an ex-player/manager who understands the game in the room making VAR decisions not the same Refs that are all part of the 'Refs clique'. 2) use Rugby example. Decisions shown on screen in stadium with live feed so everyone understands what is going on. 3) only allow each team 3 chances to question a decision. If it is overturned and a clear error then don't lose one of their available 3. American football/Tennis also use this rule and it seems widely accepted in both sports. This might finally get the VAR used effectively as it has a place if people like Darren England are no longer in charge of it.
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| Davepalace707 Northumberland 02 Oct 23 8.23pm |
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Originally posted by Elpis
well one good things come out of it . Liverpool windging that its not fair ,we want a replay , fans want a refund . Paybacks a bitch
Exactly - couldn’t happen to a nicer club
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| New Forest Eagle Darlington 02 Oct 23 9.28pm |
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Makes up for that terrible Jota penalty they were awarded against us.
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| Texas Eagle San Antonio, Texas (via Adelaide) 03 Oct 23 1.21am |
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Originally posted by Palace 1979
I think there are 3 things that could be done to improve things as VAR could work with the right people involved and a change of how it's used. 1) have an ex-player/manager who understands the game in the room making VAR decisions not the same Refs that are all part of the 'Refs clique'. 2) use Rugby example. Decisions shown on screen in stadium with live feed so everyone understands what is going on. 3) only allow each team 3 chances to question a decision. If it is overturned and a clear error then don't lose one of their available 3. American football/Tennis also use this rule and it seems widely accepted in both sports. This might finally get the VAR used effectively as it has a place if people like Darren England are no longer in charge of it. No.1 wouldn't work due to conflict in interpretation of the laws. Players/managers see fouls/offences one way, referees interpret the laws as they are written or as they are instructed to interpret them. Believe me I've been there! Handball is the perfect example, or when a player is "clear" on goal with a chance of scoring, Caution or send off.... 2. would certainly be an improvement, and clear up any misinterpretations of "crucial" decisions. It works well in rugby, why not football. It might lead to over analyzing of the audio exchanges between on field and off field officials and their "implications" especially by the media. No.3 would effectively be timeouts. I suspect it would lead to longer matches. Do we really want that? 6 disputed calls could easily add 30-60 minutes to a match. Not popular with TV and their programing. Answer:17
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Oct 23 7.44am |
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Originally posted by New Forest Eagle
Makes up for that terrible Jota penalty they were awarded against us. And the clearly offside goal in same game. Don’t you miss Kevin Friend
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| YT Oxford 03 Oct 23 7.53am |
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Originally posted by Texas Eagle
No.1 wouldn't work due to conflict in interpretation of the laws. Players/managers see fouls/offences one way, referees interpret the laws as they are written or as they are instructed to interpret them. Believe me I've been there! Handball is the perfect example, or when a player is "clear" on goal with a chance of scoring, Caution or send off.... 2. would certainly be an improvement, and clear up any misinterpretations of "crucial" decisions. It works well in rugby, why not football. It might lead to over analyzing of the audio exchanges between on field and off field officials and their "implications" especially by the media. No.3 would effectively be timeouts. I suspect it would lead to longer matches. Do we really want that? 6 disputed calls could easily add 30-60 minutes to a match. Not popular with TV and their programing. Answer:17 I bet 99% of players have never read ANYTHING. Apart from the odd note from their agent telling them how much more they can earn elsewhere. Graeme Le Saux was ribbed by his Chelsea team-mates and nicknamed 'The Professor' because he read books and collected antiques. Obviously we opposing fans had a variety of other nicknames for him.
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Teddy Eagle  03 Oct 23 7.59am |
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Originally posted by YT
I bet 99% of players have never read ANYTHING. Apart from the odd note from their agent telling them how much more they can earn elsewhere. Graeme Le Saux was ribbed by his Chelsea team-mates and nicknamed 'The Professor' because he read books and collected antiques. Obviously we opposing fans had a variety of other nicknames for him. Still amusing that Gareth Southgate's nickname at Palace was Nord because they thought he talked posh and the poshest person they knew was Dennis Norden.
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| MrRobbo Chaldon 03 Oct 23 9.24am |
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Originally posted by Palace 1979
I think there are 3 things that could be done to improve things as VAR could work with the right people involved and a change of how it's used. 1) have an ex-player/manager who understands the game in the room making VAR decisions not the same Refs that are all part of the 'Refs clique'. 2) use Rugby example. Decisions shown on screen in stadium with live feed so everyone understands what is going on. 3) only allow each team 3 chances to question a decision. If it is overturned and a clear error then don't lose one of their available 3. American football/Tennis also use this rule and it seems widely accepted in both sports. This might finally get the VAR used effectively as it has a place if people like Darren England are no longer in charge of it. I'm not sure on point 1. There is always talk of an ex player etc, I wasn't a prem player, but I can see all of the issues. so I don't think that's an excuse. Lots of sports have point 2, and it adds to the game Point 3. I'd prefer this method vs what we have now. e.g. Game flows as per on pitch decisions and VAR only gets involved if someone challenges. So it becomes a tactical decision when to use/review.
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