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PalazioVecchio south pole 11 Sep 23 4.03pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Are you advocating no welfare state, then? the USA has the right idea. Hence it is wealthy. Productive people prosper, and those who are unproductive are less of a burden to you. in Europe we have extended families of uncles, cousins, grand-parents...across 3 , 4, or even 5 generations who all have never had an official job, who all do not work. Who all scrounge off the State. And who frequently claim benefits while working in the black-economy. Some Northern towns, in England, contain little else. People who also hold very little allegiance to the State that feeds them. Show me a good country with a generous Welfare State ? cos it doesnt exist. Edited by PalazioVecchio (11 Sep 2023 4.06pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Glazier#1

Are you advocating no welfare state, then?

the USA has the right idea. Hence it is wealthy. Productive people prosper, and those who are unproductive are less of a burden to you.

in Europe we have extended families of uncles, cousins, grand-parents...across 3 , 4, or even 5 generations who all have never had an official job, who all do not work. Who all scrounge off the State. And who frequently claim benefits while working in the black-economy. Some Northern towns, in England, contain little else. People who also hold very little allegiance to the State that feeds them.

Show me a good country with a generous Welfare State ? cos it doesnt exist.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (11 Sep 2023 4.06pm)

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Glazier#1 11 Sep 23 4.06pm
So, again, are you advocating a non welfare state? Blimey. Are you a politician?
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11 Sep 23 4.06pm

So, again, are you advocating a non welfare state?

Blimey. Are you a politician?

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georgenorman 11 Sep 23 4.09pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 So, again, are you advocating a non welfare state? Blimey. Are you a politician? I think he might be advocating a welfare state that is more efficient and financially responsible and helps those that actually need and are deserving of help.
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11 Sep 23 4.09pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

So, again, are you advocating a non welfare state?

Blimey. Are you a politician?

I think he might be advocating a welfare state that is more efficient and financially responsible and helps those that actually need and are deserving of help.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 11 Sep 23 4.16pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 So, again, are you advocating a non welfare state? Blimey. Are you a politician? i advocate that .... a) the minimum-wage working man has a better life-outcome than the longterm-scrounger ( housing, health, leisure, reproduction, diet, disposable income, vehicle ownership, holidays, flat-screen telly-size, longevity, etc ) b) that's it. and if that makes me a Fascist ? then really how has everybody got such a messed up ideology ? Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 11 Sep 23 4.16pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

So, again, are you advocating a non welfare state?

Blimey. Are you a politician?

i advocate that ....

a) the minimum-wage working man has a better life-outcome than the longterm-scrounger ( housing, health, leisure, reproduction, diet, disposable income, vehicle ownership, holidays, flat-screen telly-size, longevity, etc )

b) that's it.

and if that makes me a Fascist ? then really how has everybody got such a messed up ideology ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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beak croydon 11 Sep 23 4.18pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 So, again, are you advocating no welfare state? No welfare state must mean a country out of control, pakistan has no N.H.S. No free schooling and most money goes on the police and army.Imran Khan is arrested and jailed released twice a month.
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croydon 11 Sep 23 4.18pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

So, again, are you advocating no welfare state?

No welfare state must mean a country out of control, pakistan has no N.H.S. No free schooling and most money goes on the police and army.Imran Khan is arrested and jailed released twice a month.

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Glazier#1 11 Sep 23 4.19pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio i advocate that .... a) the minimum-wage working man has a better life-outcome than the longterm-scrounger ( housing, health, leisure, reproduction, diet, disposable income, vehicle ownership, holidays, flat-screen telly-size, longevity, etc ) b) that's it. and if that makes me a Fascist ? then really how has everybody got such a messed up ideology ? Did I call you a "fascist"? I think not. Are you advocating the raising of the minimum wage?
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Glazier#1

11 Sep 23 4.19pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

i advocate that ....

b) that's it.

and if that makes me a Fascist ? then really how has everybody got such a messed up ideology ?

Did I call you a "fascist"?

I think not.

Are you advocating the raising of the minimum wage?

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Glazier#1 11 Sep 23 4.20pm
Still, it's off the point. Did you watch the link. It's a myth-buster, don't you think?
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Glazier#1

11 Sep 23 4.20pm

Still, it's off the point.

Did you watch the link.

It's a myth-buster, don't you think?

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PalazioVecchio south pole 11 Sep 23 4.25pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Did I call you a "fascist"? I think not. Are you advocating the raising of the minimum wage? nope. But minimum-wage workers should get help with costs of housing. And dole-heads should not get to live near posh places like Chelsea. Send the longterm-unemployed to the North of Scotland and pay them in food stamps. No booze, drugs or fancy designer iPhones. [Link] Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 11 Sep 23 4.25pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Did I call you a "fascist"?

I think not.

Are you advocating the raising of the minimum wage?

nope. But minimum-wage workers should get help with costs of housing.

And dole-heads should not get to live near posh places like Chelsea. Send the longterm-unemployed to the North of Scotland and pay them in food stamps. No booze, drugs or fancy designer iPhones.

[Link]

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PalazioVecchio south pole 11 Sep 23 4.29pm
imagine a whole society of the link below ? the fall of Rome would happen very quickly......Socialism [Link] Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 11 Sep 23 4.29pm

imagine a whole society of the link below ? the fall of Rome would happen very quickly......Socialism

[Link]

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Glazier#1 11 Sep 23 4.30pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio nope. But minimum-wage workers should get help with costs of housing. And dole-heads should not get to live near posh places like Chelsea. Send the longterm-unemployed to the North of Scotland and pay them in food stamps. No booze, drugs or fancy designer iPhones. [Link] What?! Well, I never. Perhaps we should float them all on a barge off the Dorset coast?
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Glazier#1

11 Sep 23 4.30pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

nope. But minimum-wage workers should get help with costs of housing.

And dole-heads should not get to live near posh places like Chelsea. Send the longterm-unemployed to the North of Scotland and pay them in food stamps. No booze, drugs or fancy designer iPhones.

[Link]

What?!

Well, I never.

Perhaps we should float them all on a barge off the Dorset coast?

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Glazier#1 11 Sep 23 4.57pm
I'll ask again, Crystallo. Did you watch the link (in full) and do you think it's a myth-buster - disproving 'that' oft-trotted out saying?
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Glazier#1

11 Sep 23 4.57pm

I'll ask again, Crystallo.

Did you watch the link (in full) and do you think it's a myth-buster - disproving 'that' oft-trotted out saying?

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Glazier#1 11 Sep 23 5.00pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio nope. But minimum-wage workers should get help with costs of housing. And dole-heads should not get to live near posh places like Chelsea. Send the longterm-unemployed to the North of Scotland and pay them in food stamps. No booze, drugs or fancy designer iPhones. [Link] Good old 'Right To buy' saw off that idea, didn't it. Another Thatcher masterpiece.
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Glazier#1

11 Sep 23 5.00pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

nope. But minimum-wage workers should get help with costs of housing.

And dole-heads should not get to live near posh places like Chelsea. Send the longterm-unemployed to the North of Scotland and pay them in food stamps. No booze, drugs or fancy designer iPhones.

[Link]

Good old 'Right To buy' saw off that idea, didn't it. Another Thatcher masterpiece.

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