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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Aug 23 1.18pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 'Twas all in good jest I hope you appreciate Willo! I do like a jolly good jest ! I do have the bandwith mentally to embrace a well-intentioned josh.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Aug 23 1.18pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

'Twas all in good jest I hope you appreciate Willo!

I do like a jolly good jest !
I do have the bandwith mentally to embrace a well-intentioned josh.

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Putitout Oxford 25 Aug 23 1.40pm
When we have a situation where by the referees chief makes apologies for three officials in one match on one blatantly clear decision, then something must be very wrong, the game was Man, U Wolves. It’s a constant problem ,it’s happening throughout the Premier league, You have to ask why the two VAR officials could not see the block Arsenal used Monday. We used to have a problem with one ref ,now it’s three. If we get rid of VAR TV will only roast a single ref. What we need is three refs that give the right decision and not just agree to give a wrong one.
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Oxford 25 Aug 23 1.40pm

When we have a situation where by the referees chief makes apologies for three officials in one match on one blatantly clear decision, then something must be very wrong, the game was Man, U Wolves. It’s a constant problem ,it’s happening throughout the Premier league, You have to ask why the two VAR officials could not see the block Arsenal used Monday. We used to have a problem with one ref ,now it’s three. If we get rid of VAR TV will only roast a single ref. What we need is three refs that give the right decision and not just agree to give a wrong one.

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 25 Aug 23 2.42pm
I watched some footage of "The Best Premier League Goals" on Sky the other day, from the 90s I think. There were some great goals, but I'm convinced a fair few of them would have been subjected to VAR checks taking away all that wonderful spontaneous celebrating. I understand the need for consistency, but VAR gets a thumbs down from me. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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I watched some footage of "The Best Premier League Goals" on Sky the other day, from the 90s I think.

There were some great goals, but I'm convinced a fair few of them would have been subjected to VAR checks taking away all that wonderful spontaneous celebrating.

I understand the need for consistency, but VAR gets a thumbs down from me.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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YT Oxford 25 Aug 23 2.59pm
Originally posted by Willo I do like a jolly good jest ! I do have the bandwith mentally to embrace a well-intentioned josh. As long as it's not a Rogan Josh, which I suspect would be far too mild for your tastes, Willo. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 25 Aug 23 2.59pm

Originally posted by Willo

I do like a jolly good jest !
I do have the bandwith mentally to embrace a well-intentioned josh.

As long as it's not a Rogan Josh, which I suspect would be far too mild for your tastes, Willo.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Aug 23 3.06pm
Originally posted by YT As long as it's not a Rogan Josh, which I suspect would be far too mild for your tastes, Willo. Far too mild for my palate. I have in mind for this weekend a 'Gunpowder Kahlia'.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Aug 23 3.06pm

Originally posted by YT

As long as it's not a Rogan Josh, which I suspect would be far too mild for your tastes, Willo.

Far too mild for my palate.
I have in mind for this weekend a 'Gunpowder Kahlia'.

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cryrst The garden of England 25 Aug 23 3.28pm
Originally posted by Willo Far too mild for my palate. I have in mind for this weekend a 'Gunpowder Kahlia'. You must have a stainless steel toilet pan for the morning after. Where you been anyway you old sod
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cryrst

The garden of England 25 Aug 23 3.28pm

Originally posted by Willo

Far too mild for my palate.
I have in mind for this weekend a 'Gunpowder Kahlia'.

You must have a stainless steel toilet pan for the morning after. Where you been anyway you old sod

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Aug 23 3.58pm
Originally posted by cryrst You must have a stainless steel toilet pan for the morning after. Where you been anyway you old sod Staying well clear of the transfer speculation debates. In actual fact it was asserted by some learned gentleman that I "Flounce" when the Transfer Window opens and return to the fold when it closes.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Aug 23 3.58pm

Originally posted by cryrst

You must have a stainless steel toilet pan for the morning after. Where you been anyway you old sod

Staying well clear of the transfer speculation debates.

In actual fact it was asserted by some learned gentleman that I "Flounce" when the Transfer Window opens and return to the fold when it closes.

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 25 Aug 23 4.18pm
The worst thing about VAR is now I’m not sure who to vent my anger at when I’m at a game. Abusing the ref is how we get the frustration out of our system, but now it’s not always their fault. It all seems a lot worse now, at least when a ref made a mistake before VAR we all understood it, major fcuk up, vent your spleen at the ref, make your excuses after the game blaming the ref for costing us the game and move on. But now it just seems like a long drawn out complicated farce to still make a wrong decision
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monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 25 Aug 23 4.18pm

The worst thing about VAR is now I’m not sure who to vent my anger at when I’m at a game. Abusing the ref is how we get the frustration out of our system, but now it’s not always their fault.

It all seems a lot worse now, at least when a ref made a mistake before VAR we all understood it, major fcuk up, vent your spleen at the ref, make your excuses after the game blaming the ref for costing us the game and move on. But now it just seems like a long drawn out complicated farce to still make a wrong decision

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 25 Aug 23 4.56pm
Originally posted by Putitout When we have a situation where by the referees chief makes apologies for three officials in one match on one blatantly clear decision, then something must be very wrong, the game was Man, U Wolves. It’s a constant problem ,it’s happening throughout the Premier league, You have to ask why the two VAR officials could not see the block Arsenal used Monday. We used to have a problem with one ref ,now it’s three. If we get rid of VAR TV will only roast a single ref. What we need is three refs that give the right decision and not just agree to give a wrong one. just goes to prove that big club bias is alive and well
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the silurian

The garden of England.(not really) 25 Aug 23 4.56pm

Originally posted by Putitout

When we have a situation where by the referees chief makes apologies for three officials in one match on one blatantly clear decision, then something must be very wrong, the game was Man, U Wolves. It’s a constant problem ,it’s happening throughout the Premier league, You have to ask why the two VAR officials could not see the block Arsenal used Monday. We used to have a problem with one ref ,now it’s three. If we get rid of VAR TV will only roast a single ref. What we need is three refs that give the right decision and not just agree to give a wrong one.

just goes to prove that big club bias is alive and well

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Spiderman Horsham 25 Aug 23 6.48pm
Originally posted by Plumpton eagle This admission makes a real mockery of the presumed impartiality and "professionalism" of professional referees. Why release this confession now? Has he got a book to sell? Is he hoping to get noticed and be asked onto Strictly? Talk about erode the confidence of sports fans. I really would rather not have it confirmed that Mike Dean had no issue with choosing not to properly apply the rules. Perhaps a career in F1 officiating awaits? I guess Anthony Taylor owed him one after that. I wonder if it was a Palace game when Taylor overlooked a clear mistake by Dean? And on it goes. Having said all of that, I am not sure what the answer is. Just put up with it? Use foreign referees that should have less bias or are less likely to favour certain teams? Have tougher penalties for poor refereeing decisions? Maybe a start is to require them to explain their decisions by being "mic'd up" during the game or at interiew thereafter. Follow RU where there is Lear communication between ref and 3rd official and get refs who are happy to ask for help, not the arrogant t**ts we see week in week out
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Horsham 25 Aug 23 6.48pm

Originally posted by Plumpton eagle

This admission makes a real mockery of the presumed impartiality and "professionalism" of professional referees.

Why release this confession now? Has he got a book to sell? Is he hoping to get noticed and be asked onto Strictly?

Talk about erode the confidence of sports fans. I really would rather not have it confirmed that Mike Dean had no issue with choosing not to properly apply the rules. Perhaps a career in F1 officiating awaits?

I guess Anthony Taylor owed him one after that. I wonder if it was a Palace game when Taylor overlooked a clear mistake by Dean? And on it goes.

Having said all of that, I am not sure what the answer is. Just put up with it? Use foreign referees that should have less bias or are less likely to favour certain teams? Have tougher penalties for poor refereeing decisions? Maybe a start is to require them to explain their decisions by being "mic'd up" during the game or at interiew thereafter.

Follow RU where there is Lear communication between ref and 3rd official and get refs who are happy to ask for help, not the arrogant t**ts we see week in week out

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Spiderman Horsham 25 Aug 23 6.50pm
Originally posted by the silurian just goes to prove that big club bias is alive and well Yep andVARseens to be compounding it. Still it’s ok, the “smaller” clubs occasionally receive an apology but nil points
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Spiderman

Horsham 25 Aug 23 6.50pm

Originally posted by the silurian

just goes to prove that big club bias is alive and well

Yep andVARseens to be compounding it. Still it’s ok, the “smaller” clubs occasionally receive an apology but nil points

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Dubai Eagle 26 Aug 23 7.00am
Indeed & I am not convinced that 25,000 of us singing at the ref "you dont know what your doing" actually helps the situation. Originally posted by monkey The worst thing about VAR is now I’m not sure who to vent my anger at when I’m at a game. Abusing the ref is how we get the frustration out of our system, but now it’s not always their fault. It all seems a lot worse now, at least when a ref made a mistake before VAR we all understood it, major fcuk up, vent your spleen at the ref, make your excuses after the game blaming the ref for costing us the game and move on. But now it just seems like a long drawn out complicated farce to still make a wrong decision
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Dubai Eagle

26 Aug 23 7.00am

Indeed & I am not convinced that 25,000 of us singing at the ref "you dont know what your doing" actually helps the situation.

Originally posted by monkey

The worst thing about VAR is now I’m not sure who to vent my anger at when I’m at a game. Abusing the ref is how we get the frustration out of our system, but now it’s not always their fault.

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