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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 30 Jul 23 12.28pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

I know it's only part of some click bait BUT this isn't good press for Textor

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The issue of trust is vital and Textor has yet to gain mine, so whilst I accept certain limitations with Parish at the helm, I am confident that he has the club's interests at heart - the only issue being whether he will know when it's time to pass on the baton.

Maybe when we play Lyon on the 5th Aug it will have to be a five a side.

 


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dreamwaverider Flag London 30 Jul 23 12.51pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Reading Textor interview in Athletic, his multi club business strategy is immersed in what sounds like very complex and unsettling corporate structures.
His philosophies sound good, but Im not sure they are working.
He clearly wants to be in charge of player acquisition and academy selection which at Palace he is not.
Im not a fan of multi club ownership, shunting players about to suit.
Most football fans are one club for life fans and the last thing they want is to be part of some international group of clubs.
I feel no attachement to Botofago, Lyon or Molenbeek (Textor's other clubs). In fact with what he says, I am worried as to their sustainability. I am just glad he only holds 45% (minority) of CPFC.
We should all be very fearful if he were to take control of Palace, but it sounds unlikely as apparently some of other shareholders are about to inject more cash to dilute him.

I remain firmly behind Parish. Fingers crossed H&B are keeping a close eye on things and appear to be behind SP.

 

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tshepp897 Flag Dublin - Cabra 30 Jul 23 12.58pm Send a Private Message to tshepp897 Add tshepp897 as a friend

Even if you ignore what Parish has done so far for the club, I think there is one very strong argument for him over Textor.The fact that it seems that Textor's intention was always to take control of our club, and that he hasn't been able to do this, and is reduced to complaining about it in the press, suggests that either he was extremely niave or he has been outsmarted by the other directors, who have managed to secure investment without seeding control. Whatever the case, is it makes a very strong reason not to have Mr Textor at the helm.

Edited by tshepp897 (30 Jul 2023 1.00pm)

 


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Mr Palaceman Flag 30 Jul 23 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort

Textor

SP has done well but we need to move on.

he doesn't appear to know how to do this also the stories you hear with him being so close to players etc is not good for business (He doesn't have any funds to put in either and look how poor the fiances are this shouldn't be the case after decade in the league with him over paying wages etc)

Messing about with stadium as well.

I don't understand why there are a few posters that still say this. Took over the club, within a couple of years we're in the Premiership and have stayed ther ever since and all on less money than our competitors. CPFC 2010 and beyond has been an amazing success imho. Of course there have been challenges. Some dealt with better than others but overall, I can't think of a time that the club was in a better position. Can you?

Secondly, if we talk about a chairman spending more money, what are they expected to spend it on? Big transfers and overpaid wages for better players. All clubs suffer from having players on contract earning more than they should, trying to move those players on is part and parcel of running a club. In that regard, have we done any worse than other premiership clubs?

You say we need to move on, to what? Imho we have been making slow but steady progress, without going mad. Isn't that what was promised back in 2010. We now have other investors and it may not be working out for them exactly how they planned but when I look at other owners in the league, I'm grateful I support Palace.

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 30 Jul 23 12.58pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Reading Textor interview in Athletic, his multi club business strategy is immersed in what sounds like very complex and unsettling corporate structures.
His philosophies sound good, but Im not sure they are working.
He clearly wants to be in charge of player acquisition and academy selection which at Palace he is not.
Im not a fan of multi club ownership, shunting players about to suit.
Most football fans are one club for life fans and the last thing they want is to be part of some international group of clubs.
I feel no attachement to Botofago, Lyon or Molenbeek (Textor's other clubs). In fact with what he says, I am worried as to their sustainability. I am just glad he only holds 45% (minority) of CPFC.
We should all be very fearful if he were to take control of Palace, but it sounds unlikely as apparently some of other shareholders are about to inject more cash to dilute him.

I remain firmly behind Parish. Fingers crossed H&B are keeping a close eye on things and appear to be behind SP.

I don't know where you got this info from, BUT, i sure as hell hope to god you're right.

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 30 Jul 23 1.43pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Its a simple choice.

Parish who has Palaces best interest at heart
or
Textor who has Textors best interest at heart.

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Jul 23 2.15pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

I don't know where you got this info from, BUT, i sure as hell hope to god you're right.


Within the Athletic interview is an aside from the Athletic stating that sources close to Palace who wish to remain anonymous stated that "other shareholders will soon be injecting cash as part of a capital raise, which would dilute Eagle Football’s holding".

Might that be a pointer to there being a concern amongst the other investors that Textor is too near the 50% + 1 mark?

 

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Dubai Eagle Flag 30 Jul 23 2.20pm Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Under Parish we will still have a club to support in 10years, whereas under Textor the ride might be more exciting but I fear it would end up being short lived -

 

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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 30 Jul 23 2.22pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Within the Athletic interview is an aside from the Athletic stating that sources close to Palace who wish to remain anonymous stated that "other shareholders will soon be injecting cash as part of a capital raise, which would dilute Eagle Football’s holding".

Might that be a pointer to there being a concern amongst the other investors that Textor is too near the 50% + 1 mark?

Thank you for that DB, i appreciate it. Things don't sit well as far as Textor is concerned, yet it wasn't that long ago, we were all lauding him for his £70m(?) injection, how times change.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 30 Jul 23 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Within the Athletic interview is an aside from the Athletic stating that sources close to Palace who wish to remain anonymous stated that "other shareholders will soon be injecting cash as part of a capital raise, which would dilute Eagle Football’s holding".

Might that be a pointer to there being a concern amongst the other investors that Textor is too near the 50% + 1 mark?

The other shareholders can only dilute Textor's shareholding with his permission as he will have the right to subscribe to the new shares

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 30 Jul 23 3.40pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The other shareholders can only dilute Textor's shareholding with his permission as he will have the right to subscribe to the new shares

But as he indicated, although he may invest if called to in line with a subscription if he can't become the lead majority investor, calling the shots as elsewhere, then he does not have a long term strategy. If our other shareholders read this as I do the ball will be in their court.

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Jul 23 4.26pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The other shareholders can only dilute Textor's shareholding with his permission as he will have the right to subscribe to the new shares


Of course - provided he can the raise the money and the impression I get from events over the last year is that Textor has overstretched himself and is struggling to keep all the balls in the air. Just my impression.

PS.
In any event, Textor seems to have accepted he's not going to get a majority holding in Palace and may well decide he doesn't want to sink any more into this particular venture. The Athletic interview seemed to point towards him selling out if he can get a good price and look for another English team so as to buy a majority stake. He stated that owning an English Prem team is key to his plans - he may go for a Championship team with prospects (my guess as he's not rich enough to buy most - if not all - of the remaining PL clubs).

Edited by doombear (30 Jul 2023 4.32pm)

 

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