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Sam Johnstone Release Clause
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 doombear  Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Jun 23 1.19pm |
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Maybe I'm a bit thick but I'm never clear on which of the two parties would insist on a release clause in a contract. For example, If a player coming to a club like Palace but wanting to have the option of going to a bigger club if an approach were to come might they insist on one so that if a bid came in from one of the Big 6 meeting that sum, they can be off? On the other hand, a club might be scared stiff of losing a player so that in return for giving that player a nice fat pay rise they insist on a mega release clause so as to fend off bids, but if another club was desperate enough to trigger the release - more fool them (think Chelsea, Fernandes and Benfica) So, do we think Johnstone asked for the release clause or Palace?
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Jun 23 1.20pm |
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Just having a think about this. I wonder if Pickford is off to Man U. Then this makes sense.
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| The Dolphin 21 Jun 23 1.32pm |
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IF he wants to join the madhouse then we are better off without him, albeit I very much hope that he stays on a better contract duration and more money.
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| Painter Croydon 21 Jun 23 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It has always been one of life's great mysteries to me as to why any ambitious footballer would want to join Everton. If I were Parish, I'd write up a new contract for Johnson before he gets lured by a club that might actually win something. Money is generally the motive.
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| YT Oxford 21 Jun 23 1.40pm |
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Originally posted by doombear
Maybe I'm a bit thick but I'm never clear on which of the two parties would insist on a release clause in a contract. For example, If a player coming to a club like Palace but wanting to have the option of going to a bigger club if an approach were to come might they insist on one so that if a bid came in from one of the Big 6 meeting that sum, they can be off? On the other hand, a club might be scared stiff of losing a player so that in return for giving that player a nice fat pay rise they insist on a mega release clause so as to fend off bids, but if another club was desperate enough to trigger the release - more fool them (think Chelsea, Fernandes and Benfica) So, do we think Johnstone asked for the release clause or Palace? I suspect that in a contract negotiation, both of your scenarios are in play. It therefore comes down to a negotiation and agreement over 'price' - the player will want the release clause amount to be as low as it can be while the club will want it to be as high as possible.
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| Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 21 Jun 23 4.35pm |
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Meh, he's okay. Can't help but feel there's better value out there if they are willing £10m. Somebody about 30-33, give our young lads a hope of making it.
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| YT Oxford 21 Jun 23 5.44pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
Money is generally the motive. Indeed, given that they are professional footballers.
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cryrst  The garden of England 22 Jun 23 4.58am |
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Put him behind the Everton centre backs instead of ours and he’s conceding a few more I reckon !
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 becky over the moon 22 Jun 23 6.43am |
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Originally posted by doombear
Maybe I'm a bit thick but I'm never clear on which of the two parties would insist on a release clause in a contract. For example, If a player coming to a club like Palace but wanting to have the option of going to a bigger club if an approach were to come might they insist on one so that if a bid came in from one of the Big 6 meeting that sum, they can be off? On the other hand, a club might be scared stiff of losing a player so that in return for giving that player a nice fat pay rise they insist on a mega release clause so as to fend off bids, but if another club was desperate enough to trigger the release - more fool them (think Chelsea, Fernandes and Benfica) So, do we think Johnstone asked for the release clause or Palace? Don't know who asked for it, but it would, to me, make sense for the keeper to want one. Generally, (as I think with Johnstone) they are one of 3+ keepers on the books with no option of playing elsewhere, unlike an outfield player who can be called on to cover another position. This means they could (and I think Palace have had keepers that did) spend their whole time with a club pushing to even get a reserve team game, let alone a 1st team team one, so it would make more sense for them to be able to 'get out' if an offer came to get actual match time else where.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 22 Jun 23 7.55am |
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Originally posted by becky
Don't know who asked for it, but it would, to me, make sense for the keeper to want one. Generally, (as I think with Johnstone) they are one of 3+ keepers on the books with no option of playing elsewhere, unlike an outfield player who can be called on to cover another position. This means they could (and I think Palace have had keepers that did) spend their whole time with a club pushing to even get a reserve team game, let alone a 1st team team one, so it would make more sense for them to be able to 'get out' if an offer came to get actual match time else where.
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| Qwijibo Bournemouth 22 Jun 23 10.32am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It has always been one of life's great mysteries to me as to why any ambitious footballer would want to join Everton. If I were Parish, I'd write up a new contract for Johnson before he gets lured by a club that might actually win something.
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| MrRobbo Chaldon 22 Jun 23 11.08am |
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Originally posted by doombear
Maybe I'm a bit thick but I'm never clear on which of the two parties would insist on a release clause in a contract. For example, If a player coming to a club like Palace but wanting to have the option of going to a bigger club if an approach were to come might they insist on one so that if a bid came in from one of the Big 6 meeting that sum, they can be off? On the other hand, a club might be scared stiff of losing a player so that in return for giving that player a nice fat pay rise they insist on a mega release clause so as to fend off bids, but if another club was desperate enough to trigger the release - more fool them (think Chelsea, Fernandes and Benfica) So, do we think Johnstone asked for the release clause or Palace? Really deepens on the size of hte release clause. In this case it will be of Johnstons doing. Its pretty modest, and so gives him a reasonably low get out if either big club comes or an another prem club. Harland also had a clause that became active after something like 2 seasons as Dortmund. Essentially I'll commit to you for 2 years, but I'm not going to give you the power to hold other suiters to ransom. The talk is that he has the same at City. IF Kane had done the same he would have had his move by now. The Villa chairman spoke about it quite a lot when City triggered Grealish's. They put it in at 100m to be fair to all sides. If Jack was performing at an incredibly high level there was always an option to buy, but Villa were protected as it would be the highest ever fee for a British player. And it made it easy to be clear on their stance....trigger the cause or don't bid. The silly ones that Barca and co put in, I'm not sure. More for the headlines? Because in reality they can sell for whatever they want.
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