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eaglesdare 20 Mar 23 12.59pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Ireland needs something similar. EVERY party here sucks. Those who hate FF/FG are now offered the dubious alternative of Sinn Fein.....Black Balaclavas mixed in with Rainbow Balaclavas. and to the Boers....Graag Gedaan.....well done, happily done. Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 Mar 2023 8.50pm) Sin Fein would be even worse than what is already "running the country" we will have even worse open borders with them lot. St patricks week last week and not 1 TD in the country says it all really. I will vote independant in the next elections...
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eaglesdare

20 Mar 23 12.59pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Ireland needs something similar. EVERY party here sucks.

Those who hate FF/FG are now offered the dubious alternative of Sinn Fein.....Black Balaclavas mixed in with Rainbow Balaclavas.

and to the Boers....Graag Gedaan.....well done, happily done.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 Mar 2023 8.50pm)

Sin Fein would be even worse than what is already "running the country" we will have even worse open borders with them lot.

St patricks week last week and not 1 TD in the country says it all really.

I will vote independant in the next elections...

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HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Mar 23 2.31pm
Originally posted by georgenorman Wisbech will continue to try to stick his finger in dikes. No but he will likely have some amongst his multitude of relatives and therefore be an expert. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 20 Mar 23 2.31pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Wisbech will continue to try to stick his finger in dikes.

No but he will likely have some amongst his multitude of relatives and therefore be an expert.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 02 Apr 23 1.41pm
Far right Finn's too. All these far right who don't want imported crime or EU diktats. Fascists basically - bunches of sticks with a ceremonial axe in the middle. Far right about as meaningful as the word fascist. [Link] They might lose to the coke party girl anyway. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 02 Apr 23 1.41pm

Far right Finn's too. All these far right who don't want imported crime or EU diktats. Fascists basically - bunches of sticks with a ceremonial axe in the middle. Far right about as meaningful as the word fascist.

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They might lose to the coke party girl anyway.

Red and Blue Army!

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Matov 02 Apr 23 2.02pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Far right Finn's too. All these far right who don't want imported crime or EU diktats. Fascists basically - bunches of sticks with a ceremonial axe in the middle. Far right about as meaningful as the word fascist. [Link] They might lose to the coke party girl anyway. Lets be honest, virtually anybody with any kind of traditional view on anything falls into the 'Fascist' camp these days. And it always makes me smile because if people understood the roots of traditional Italian Fascism then they might think twice about cheering on the Trade Unions in this country. Be careful what you wish for Lefties. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

02 Apr 23 2.02pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

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They might lose to the coke party girl anyway.

Lets be honest, virtually anybody with any kind of traditional view on anything falls into the 'Fascist' camp these days.

And it always makes me smile because if people understood the roots of traditional Italian Fascism then they might think twice about cheering on the Trade Unions in this country. Be careful what you wish for Lefties.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 02 Apr 23 3.34pm
Originally posted by Matov Lets be honest, virtually anybody with any kind of traditional view on anything falls into the 'Fascist' camp these days. if a white fella says something homophobic....he is Far Right and a Fascist, throw him into jail for hate-speech and incitement to violence. if another fella says something homophobic...and quotes any old Holy Book..........well then we must respect his culture. And if you criticise Leo Varadkar , for his poxy political policies, then you must be homophobic yourself ? In the past, many politicians got fired for marital infidelity. Trump would be crucified. But we were told not to pry into the private life ( Nightclub dance-floor) of our PM. And if you call Macron 'filth' you reap the whirlwind. But call him a Gerontophile.....tumbleweed. [Link] . [Tweet Link] Edited by PalazioVecchio (02 Apr 2023 3.48pm) Edited by PalazioVecchio (02 Apr 2023 3.52pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Matov

Lets be honest, virtually anybody with any kind of traditional view on anything falls into the 'Fascist' camp these days.

if a white fella says something homophobic....he is Far Right and a Fascist, throw him into jail for hate-speech and incitement to violence.

if another fella says something homophobic...and quotes any old Holy Book..........well then we must respect his culture.

And if you criticise Leo Varadkar , for his poxy political policies, then you must be homophobic yourself ? In the past, many politicians got fired for marital infidelity. Trump would be crucified. But we were told not to pry into the private life ( Nightclub dance-floor) of our PM.

And if you call Macron 'filth' you reap the whirlwind. But call him a Gerontophile.....tumbleweed.

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[Tweet Link]

Edited by PalazioVecchio (02 Apr 2023 3.48pm)

Edited by PalazioVecchio (02 Apr 2023 3.52pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Matov 02 Apr 23 3.50pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio if a white fella says something homophobic....he is Far Right and a Fascist, throw him into jail for hate-speech and incitement to violence. if another fella says something homophobic...and quotes any old Holy Book..........well then we must respect his culture. And if you criticise Leo Varadkar , for his poxy political policies, then you must be homophobic yourself ? And if you call Macron 'filth' you reap the whirlwind. But call him a Gerontophile.....tumbleweed. [Link] . [Tweet Link] Edited by PalazioVecchio (02 Apr 2023 3.48pm) A prime example of my theory that if you want to understand what is going on in meta politics then focus on what is NOT being reported on as much as what is. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

02 Apr 23 3.50pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

if a white fella says something homophobic....he is Far Right and a Fascist, throw him into jail for hate-speech and incitement to violence.

if another fella says something homophobic...and quotes any old Holy Book..........well then we must respect his culture.

And if you criticise Leo Varadkar , for his poxy political policies, then you must be homophobic yourself ?

And if you call Macron 'filth' you reap the whirlwind. But call him a Gerontophile.....tumbleweed.

[Link]
.

[Tweet Link]

Edited by PalazioVecchio (02 Apr 2023 3.48pm)

A prime example of my theory that if you want to understand what is going on in meta politics then focus on what is NOT being reported on as much as what is.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 23 8.12am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The sort of political change we need in Britain. Most are done with the useless two party system that has overseen this country's decline. As the Netherlands uses PR this is indeed the kind of change we need. Having all opinions represented, including those you don't like, ensures everyone has a voice. Whether we imitate exactly the same system is another question as it's often difficult to form a government, but the basic principle is sound. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 23 8.12am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The sort of political change we need in Britain.

Most are done with the useless two party system that has overseen this country's decline.

As the Netherlands uses PR this is indeed the kind of change we need. Having all opinions represented, including those you don't like, ensures everyone has a voice.

Whether we imitate exactly the same system is another question as it's often difficult to form a government, but the basic principle is sound.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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georgenorman 03 Apr 23 8.22am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle As the Netherlands uses PR this is indeed the kind of change we need. Having all opinions represented, including those you don't like, ensures everyone has a voice. Whether we imitate exactly the same system is another question as it's often difficult to form a government, but the basic principle is sound. PR benefits extremists.
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georgenorman

03 Apr 23 8.22am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As the Netherlands uses PR this is indeed the kind of change we need. Having all opinions represented, including those you don't like, ensures everyone has a voice.

Whether we imitate exactly the same system is another question as it's often difficult to form a government, but the basic principle is sound.

PR benefits extremists.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 03 Apr 23 9.39am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle As the Netherlands uses PR this is indeed the kind of change we need. Having all opinions represented, including those you don't like, ensures everyone has a voice. Whether we imitate exactly the same system is another question as it's often difficult to form a government, but the basic principle is sound. Ireland has PR and you can freely choose between Left of centre Globalists or the far Left. Actually, sounds a bit similar in the UK. In Ireland, if you express an opinion like Margaret Thatcher....say, ''the working man should have a better life than the longterm unemployed man'' and they will brand you 'Far Right' and almost throw you into jail. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 03 Apr 23 9.39am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As the Netherlands uses PR this is indeed the kind of change we need. Having all opinions represented, including those you don't like, ensures everyone has a voice.

Whether we imitate exactly the same system is another question as it's often difficult to form a government, but the basic principle is sound.

Ireland has PR and you can freely choose between Left of centre Globalists or the far Left. Actually, sounds a bit similar in the UK.

In Ireland, if you express an opinion like Margaret Thatcher....say, ''the working man should have a better life than the longterm unemployed man'' and they will brand you 'Far Right' and almost throw you into jail.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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footythoughts Beckenham 06 Apr 23 8.33am
'Farmers of the world.. unite and take over'. It goes to show what inroads can be made with the people finally get fed up with the same old non choices. Edited by footythoughts (06 Apr 2023 8.33am)
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Beckenham 06 Apr 23 8.33am

'Farmers of the world.. unite and take over'.

It goes to show what inroads can be made with the people finally get fed up with the same old non choices.

Edited by footythoughts (06 Apr 2023 8.33am)

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georgenorman 30 Apr 23 11.44am
Originally posted by steeleye20 These are provincial elections the pro-farmers party is mainly concerned with the tough nitrogen emissions about to be imposed on them. It is not a national election and they will only have 15 out of 75 seats. Nevertheless a blow to Mark Rutte, but has scant coverage I don't know why the HOL is fussed. If farmers had there way here we would certainly not have had a hard brexit. Labour well ahead in the polls in rural constituencies. The Dutch are the second largest exporter of agricultural products in the world, after the USA. Their government wants to close 30% of their cattle farms in order to reduce nitrogen emissions because the gas apparently makes some plants die and some plants thrive in areas where unelected EU Commissioners have decided they should not. Dutch famers will be forced to sell their land to the state now or face forced expropriation later. Is it little wonder that the BBB and anti-EU groups are getting so much support.
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georgenorman

30 Apr 23 11.44am

Originally posted by steeleye20

These are provincial elections the pro-farmers party is mainly concerned with the tough nitrogen emissions about to be imposed on them.

It is not a national election and they will only have 15 out of 75 seats.

Nevertheless a blow to Mark Rutte, but has scant coverage I don't know why the HOL is fussed.

If farmers had there way here we would certainly not have had a hard brexit.

Labour well ahead in the polls in rural constituencies.

The Dutch are the second largest exporter of agricultural products in the world, after the USA.

Their government wants to close 30% of their cattle farms in order to reduce nitrogen emissions because the gas apparently makes some plants die and some plants thrive in areas where unelected EU Commissioners have decided they should not.

Dutch famers will be forced to sell their land to the state now or face forced expropriation later. Is it little wonder that the BBB and anti-EU groups are getting so much support.

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Matov 30 Apr 23 1.23pm
Originally posted by georgenorman The Dutch are the second largest exporter of agricultural products in the world, after the USA. Their government wants to close 30% of their cattle farms in order to reduce nitrogen emissions because the gas apparently makes some plants die and some plants thrive in areas where unelected EU Commissioners have decided they should not. Dutch famers will be forced to sell their land to the state now or face forced expropriation later. Is it little wonder that the BBB and anti-EU groups are getting so much support. This Net Zero BS is literal evil. Why on earth woud you want to stop people growing food? Surely the goal for the EU, should be that it can produce its own food? Because if the Dutch don't grow it, somebody else has to. Meaning the same thing still happens. And the food no doubt has to travel further meaning more global warming. Makes no sense whatsoever. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

30 Apr 23 1.23pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

The Dutch are the second largest exporter of agricultural products in the world, after the USA.

Dutch famers will be forced to sell their land to the state now or face forced expropriation later. Is it little wonder that the BBB and anti-EU groups are getting so much support.

This Net Zero BS is literal evil. Why on earth woud you want to stop people growing food? Surely the goal for the EU, should be that it can produce its own food?

Because if the Dutch don't grow it, somebody else has to. Meaning the same thing still happens. And the food no doubt has to travel further meaning more global warming. Makes no sense whatsoever.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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