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Pembroke Bristol 26 Oct 22 2.56pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 I think this topic transcends just football and is tied up with what so many on these pages despise as 'Woke' nonsense. It is the opinion expressed by our own Patrick Viera over the opportunities, or lack of them, afforded to black people when it comes to football management and the upper echelons of the football hierarchy. Do people on here think there's anything to it, or is just more of the 'woke' claptrap I keep reading about?. 'If you're good enough, people will use you', I am expecting to see, followed by 'stop whingeing.' Am I wrong? Management is meritocracy. The upper echelons of Management in the premiership represents meritocracy, from across the globe. If your good enough people will use you .. The Premiership employs the good enough, the best, the Contiis, Klopps, Guardiolas, wide spread rich skilled CV'S employed by people of differing origins from across the globe. Edited by Pembroke (26 Oct 2022 2.57pm)
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Pembroke

Bristol 26 Oct 22 2.56pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

I think this topic transcends just football and is tied up with what so many on these pages despise as 'Woke' nonsense.

It is the opinion expressed by our own Patrick Viera over the opportunities, or lack of them, afforded to black people when it comes to football management and the upper echelons of the football hierarchy.

Do people on here think there's anything to it, or is just more of the 'woke' claptrap I keep reading about?.

'If you're good enough, people will use you', I am expecting to see, followed by 'stop whingeing.'

Am I wrong?

Management is meritocracy.

The upper echelons of Management in the premiership represents meritocracy, from across the globe.

If your good enough people will use you .. The Premiership employs the good enough, the best, the Contiis, Klopps, Guardiolas, wide spread rich skilled CV'S employed by people of differing origins from across the globe.

Edited by Pembroke (26 Oct 2022 2.57pm)

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Pembroke Bristol 26 Oct 22 3.07pm
Originally posted by HKOwen There is no data on how many black footballers aspire to be managers in the UK. How many do their coaching badges etc. Sol Campbell is very vocal, may be he is just now very good. There is data on UEFA badges. level two etc. Depending on how you look at representation v populace or players there is a over representation v populace, then under at UEFA badge level v players. But football doesnt work like that, nor should it, football is not a quota, if it was the number of black players, an over representation v society should be reduced? Edited by Pembroke (26 Oct 2022 3.08pm)
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Pembroke

Bristol 26 Oct 22 3.07pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

There is no data on how many black footballers aspire to be managers in the UK. How many do their coaching badges etc.

Sol Campbell is very vocal, may be he is just now very good.

There is data on UEFA badges. level two etc. Depending on how you look at representation v populace or players there is a over representation v populace, then under at UEFA badge level v players.

But football doesnt work like that, nor should it, football is not a quota, if it was the number of black players, an over representation v society should be reduced?

Edited by Pembroke (26 Oct 2022 3.08pm)

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