Are Spurs in the top 6?

So we will Palace get an apology like Newcastle did? Don’t hold your breath.
Maybe I am being paranoid but with Parish forever winding up the authorities I do worry that there is a vendetta to manufacture our relegation

As I pointed out it has to be a clear goal scoring opportunity the difference it has to be a clear not just an opportunity. The direction of the ball was away from goal and the argument would be that Chelsea had players in a position to cover. Chillwell for instance .

For me the subjective nature of the offence makes it the sort of call that you need to really drill down to what refs are told to factor in and distance alone from goal puts a big question mark into the equation but when you then factor in the direction the ball takes those two alone raise two big questions and unless the ref is 100% sure they simply won’t send a player off

Always very easy to get caught in the bias of decisions like this when your own team are involved.

I saw it quite close on the day and was utterly convinced that were the roles reversed and it was a Palace player who'd done that, I'd still maintain you could see the two players were a fair distance from the rest of them on the pitch, it wasn't that far from goal, one was lying down having lost the ball and slapped the ball so blatantly away from an attacker about to take it in is his stride so therefore, were it say Guehi who did so, I would have thought 'oh bo!!ocks, that's a red card without any question'.

Having watched replays, it looks even worse than it did live. I cannot fathom any football fan who would watch that and not think 'the player's through on goal there' and with any 'attacking' player in a now well established PL side, you'd describe the situation as an 'obvious goal scoring opportunity'. If that is not then what is?

Edited by Nicholas91 (04 Oct 2022 8.01am)

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

The interesting thing here is if the ref thought there was a “ clear goal scoring opportunity “ he almost probably would have played advantage. The fact he blew suggests that he didn’t.
Interestingly if he had played advantage irrespective of the outcome of that phase of play Silva couldn’t have been sanctioned
Irrespective heres what refs are told to factor into such incidents point one and two are the two that would tip it in my opinion

1: The distance between the offence and the goal. The closer it is to the penalty and goal areas the more likely the criteria would be satisfied. It’s not only the proximity, but also the area of the pitch, centrally in and around the penalty area is likely to satisfy the criteria, being right out on a touchline near the corner for example wouldn’t.

2: The general direction of play. If the striker has his back to goal or is side on looking to play the ball to an opponent then it will not fit the criteria for DOGSO. He needs to be in a position to be able to be about to take a shot or in the process of lining up a shot.

3: Likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball. This can be applied equally to the striker and to the defender. In relation to the striker, he does not have to have the ball actually at his feet, he could be running onto a pass from a team mate that, without the action of the defender/goalkeeper, he would have collected and had a shot on target, for example. In relation to the defender he needs to have a chance of winning the ball, for example by a clean, well timed tackle. If the striker has got away from the defender and the only means to stop him getting a shot away is to push him over or pull him back then the defender does not have any possibility of playing the ball and therefore no chance of “gaining control of the ball”.

4: The location and number of other defenders, which includes the goalkeeper. There is no set distance specified but the general rule is that if there is a covering defender or goalkeeper within range to make a tackle then the criteria for DOGSO are unlikely to be met. If the goalkeeper is stranded, has already committed to diving one way, leaving the player the opportunity to chip over him or shoot the other side of him or is the player making a last ditch tackle then the DOGSO criteria is liable to be met. If another defender, including the goalkeeper is in a close enough position to make a lawful tackle or attempt a save then the criteria will not be met.