You might wish to classify this as a "delusion" but I can assure you that my erstwhile grandson, now a granddaughter, would strongly disagree with you. They are highly intelligent, currently studying for their masters at Southampton University, and will probably go on to get a doctorate. They achieved 4 straight "A"s at A level. They never had any interest in girls and always wore their hair long. Looking back, it all now makes some sense.

Quite frankly, when they use the female toilets, as they now do, no-one will be the slightest concerned because they will not be aware. You are not "colluding" in a lie. You are unaware that you would think one was going on.

Forcing people like them to use the male toilets would create a much greater risk than any that currently exists from them.

It's been necessary for me to re-evaluate my own attitude on this in the light of my personal experiences providing greater understanding.

My grandchild poses no threat to any woman, so perhaps we should allow the women, rather than the men, to express their opinions.

If you truly think gender-neutral toilets is the "stupidest thing I have read on this site" then I don't think you can possibly have read every thread. We already have some here, in tourist dominated locations, so I suspect this will be the way forward.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I am not recommending, or defending, anything. I am as sure common sense will prevail as I am that our attitudes will gradually adapt to changed circumstances over time.

I am unsure though why a "virgin" would feel any more intimidated by a skirt, tights and high heels than a pair of tight trousers with an obvious bulge! Surprised, certainly! Intimidated?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

When they get their doctorate let me know and we'll talk on academics.

I don't care whether your Grandson poses a threat to women or not, I am addressing the whole notion and not one individual. Many men do not pose a threat to women, we still have separate changing rooms for staggeringly obvious reasons. It's only for those so bereft of contentedness in life to argue against that in an attempt to change the world as they do not possess the strength to change themselves.

As to their ability to disguise themselves as a woman, that has no bearing on the reality. I can dress up as a Policeman and knock on somebodies door to question them, they would not know but that does not make it a reality, i'is still a lie and if I believe or others encourage me to believe it as true than it is a delusion.

Gender neutral toilets are the stupidest thing I have read on this site and I say this despite reading many of your posts. If your Grandson wants to parade around as a woman fine. If he does not pose any threat to women I wholly accept that. However catering to his unscientific beliefs so as to accept them as fact is lunacy. Furthermore sacrificing the safety of women for his delusions is beyond the pale.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

This is also a cheap bit of advertising as well for Branson, after all the guy is a shyster & hypocrite albeit he's a great showman & entrepreneur.
This is a guy who wanted the UK government to bail out his airline a couple of years ago when Covid was in full effect to the tune of 850 M pounds yet almost miraculously managed to cough up the same amount of dough to build a 850 M Hotel on Broadway in Manhattan which is just about to open to the paying public.

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I used to love Virgin Atlantic and flew their Upper Class service to the States a few times. In the day it was a memorable experience.

But their latest emphasis on all things woke leaves me cold. They have been going overboard telling us that it's OK to have non white, female pilots and now openly saying that their male cabin staff can wear skirts is taking things a tad too far for me.

It's bad enough to see a Scot in a skirt, but the thought of having my vodka and tonic served by a bloke in one at 35 thousand feet makes me shiver.

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