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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Aug 22 8.36am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Absolute Poppycock, i would have said Hogwash, but Willo has patented it, l thought of claptrap, baloney or balderdash, but settled on poppycock instead Is 'rhubarb' still available? I have used it once or twice before! Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Aug 22 8.36am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Absolute Poppycock, i would have said Hogwash, but Willo has patented it, l thought of claptrap, baloney or balderdash, but settled on poppycock instead

Is 'rhubarb' still available? I have used it once or twice before!

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 24 Aug 22 9.16am
Originally posted by Willo Use "Hogwash" at your peril. I am about to patent "Tripe and onions". Edited by Willo (24 Aug 2022 7.51am) And 'anger of Vesuvian proportions'. I like that one.
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Slimey Toad

Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 24 Aug 22 9.16am

Originally posted by Willo

Use "Hogwash" at your peril.

I am about to patent "Tripe and onions".

Edited by Willo (24 Aug 2022 7.51am)

And 'anger of Vesuvian proportions'. I like that one.

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EddieMac 28 Aug 22 9.16pm
I get the feeling PV is giving OE a fair crack to see if can be the main man before the transfer window closes. So far in my book he is failing his audition. He will get his last chance to dance against Brentford.
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EddieMac

28 Aug 22 9.16pm

I get the feeling PV is giving OE a fair crack to see if can be the main man before the transfer window closes. So far in my book he is failing his audition. He will get his last chance to dance against Brentford.

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dreamwaverider London 28 Aug 22 9.49pm
Originally posted by EddieMac I get the feeling PV is giving OE a fair crack to see if can be the main man before the transfer window closes. So far in my book he is failing his audition. He will get his last chance to dance against Brentford. Won’t that be too late?
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Originally posted by EddieMac

Won’t that be too late?

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YT Oxford 28 Aug 22 11.17pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Won’t that be too late? No. There'll still be 2 whole days to get a new striker in plus all the other players we crave! The window closes at 11pm on Thursday. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 28 Aug 22 11.17pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Won’t that be too late?

No. There'll still be 2 whole days to get a new striker in plus all the other players we crave! The window closes at 11pm on Thursday.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Pete53 Hassocks 28 Aug 22 11.59pm
Originally posted by YT No. There'll still be 2 whole days to get a new striker in plus all the other players we crave! The window closes at 11pm on Thursday. Last minute panic rush buys often don't turn out well though.
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Pete53

Hassocks 28 Aug 22 11.59pm

Originally posted by YT

No. There'll still be 2 whole days to get a new striker in plus all the other players we crave! The window closes at 11pm on Thursday.

Last minute panic rush buys often don't turn out well though.

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sprites Auckland 29 Aug 22 1.42am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Absolute Poppycock, i would have said Hogwash, but Willo has patented it, l thought of claptrap, baloney or balderdash, but settled on poppycock instead What a surprise.
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sprites

Auckland 29 Aug 22 1.42am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Absolute Poppycock, i would have said Hogwash, but Willo has patented it, l thought of claptrap, baloney or balderdash, but settled on poppycock instead

What a surprise.

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YT Oxford 29 Aug 22 7.16am
Originally posted by Pete53 Last minute panic rush buys often don't turn out well though. Indeed. My post was intended to be ironic. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 29 Aug 22 7.16am

Originally posted by Pete53

Last minute panic rush buys often don't turn out well though.

Indeed. My post was intended to be ironic.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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PatrickA London 05 Sep 22 10.51am
Edouard has had more opportunities this season and sadly I don’t think he will be the answer as the central striker in Vieira’s preferred 4-3-3.. This is not a criticism of Edouard , but more an observation that he has a different skill set to that required for the role. Either we have to change the style of play to accommodate his strengths or accept he’s going to be a bit part player. As I see it the central striker in Vieira’s system requires someone who is mobile, presses the opposition’s defence, links play for the team and coverts a reasonable proportion of the limited chances that we create. Edouard has good footwork and can work openings in the opposition penalty area, but he rarely gets an opportunity to display these attributes in our system. Our build up tends to be quite laboured and he doesn’t get the early and quick service he probably needs. The model for what Vieira’s system requires for the central striker is Jesus at Arsenal and obviously we can’t afford that class of player. For different reasons Benteke and Mateta probably didn’t/don’t have the required skill set either. I’m not suggesting Vieira should change all his tactical plans to accommodate Edouard, but just acknowledging that the player may well not be the answer through no fault of his own.
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PatrickA

London 05 Sep 22 10.51am

Edouard has had more opportunities this season and sadly I don’t think he will be the answer as the central striker in Vieira’s preferred 4-3-3..
This is not a criticism of Edouard , but more an observation that he has a different skill set to that required for the role.
Either we have to change the style of play to accommodate his strengths or accept he’s going to be a bit part player.
As I see it the central striker in Vieira’s system requires someone who is mobile, presses the opposition’s defence, links play for the team and coverts a reasonable proportion of the limited chances that we create.
Edouard has good footwork and can work openings in the opposition penalty area, but he rarely gets an opportunity to display these attributes in our system.
Our build up tends to be quite laboured and he doesn’t get the early and quick service he probably needs.
The model for what Vieira’s system requires for the central striker is Jesus at Arsenal and obviously we can’t afford that class of player.
For different reasons Benteke and Mateta probably didn’t/don’t have the required skill set either.
I’m not suggesting Vieira should change all his tactical plans to accommodate Edouard, but just acknowledging that the player may well not be the answer through no fault of his own.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 05 Sep 22 11.06am
Originally posted by PatrickA Edouard has had more opportunities this season and sadly I don’t think he will be the answer as the central striker in Vieira’s preferred 4-3-3.. This is not a criticism of Edouard , but more an observation that he has a different skill set to that required for the role. Either we have to change the style of play to accommodate his strengths or accept he’s going to be a bit part player. As I see it the central striker in Vieira’s system requires someone who is mobile, presses the opposition’s defence, links play for the team and coverts a reasonable proportion of the limited chances that we create. Edouard has good footwork and can work openings in the opposition penalty area, but he rarely gets an opportunity to display these attributes in our system. Our build up tends to be quite laboured and he doesn’t get the early and quick service he probably needs. The model for what Vieira’s system requires for the central striker is Jesus at Arsenal and obviously we can’t afford that class of player. For different reasons Benteke and Mateta probably didn’t/don’t have the required skill set either. I’m not suggesting Vieira should change all his tactical plans to accommodate Edouard, but just acknowledging that the player may well not be the answer through no fault of his own. I agree, i don't think we have the players to play 4-3-3, the CF is almost a waste of a player, Wilf, Eze and Olise are our best players, and they need to relieve them of responsibility as much as they can, i think the formation i put on the Attack or Defend thread makes the most of what we have, basically 3 attackers and 8 defenders. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 05 Sep 22 11.06am

Originally posted by PatrickA

I agree, i don't think we have the players to play 4-3-3, the CF is almost a waste of a player, Wilf, Eze and Olise are our best players, and they need to relieve them of responsibility as much as they can, i think the formation i put on the Attack or Defend thread makes the most of what we have, basically 3 attackers and 8 defenders.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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taylors lovechild 05 Sep 22 11.11am
Originally posted by PatrickA Edouard has had more opportunities this season and sadly I don’t think he will be the answer as the central striker in Vieira’s preferred 4-3-3.. This is not a criticism of Edouard , but more an observation that he has a different skill set to that required for the role. Either we have to change the style of play to accommodate his strengths or accept he’s going to be a bit part player. As I see it the central striker in Vieira’s system requires someone who is mobile, presses the opposition’s defence, links play for the team and coverts a reasonable proportion of the limited chances that we create. Edouard has good footwork and can work openings in the opposition penalty area, but he rarely gets an opportunity to display these attributes in our system. Our build up tends to be quite laboured and he doesn’t get the early and quick service he probably needs. The model for what Vieira’s system requires for the central striker is Jesus at Arsenal and obviously we can’t afford that class of player. For different reasons Benteke and Mateta probably didn’t/don’t have the required skill set either. I’m not suggesting Vieira should change all his tactical plans to accommodate Edouard, but just acknowledging that the player may well not be the answer through no fault of his own. I think a Firminho type player is another example; someone who comes deeper and plays the wingers in, rather than the other way round. Mateta's first touch is awful for a PL player, but he looks more dangerous in the 18-yard box. Edouard has good feet, but seems to want too long on the ball and has so far seemed to struggle with the speed and physicality of the PL. Neither have shone, but Mateta always looks more likely to score out of the two. I am starting to wonder whether Ayew should go back in the middle as he presses well, has lots of energy and retains possession, even if he can't score.
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05 Sep 22 11.11am

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Originally posted by PatrickA

I think a Firminho type player is another example; someone who comes deeper and plays the wingers in, rather than the other way round. Mateta's first touch is awful for a PL player, but he looks more dangerous in the 18-yard box. Edouard has good feet, but seems to want too long on the ball and has so far seemed to struggle with the speed and physicality of the PL. Neither have shone, but Mateta always looks more likely to score out of the two. I am starting to wonder whether Ayew should go back in the middle as he presses well, has lots of energy and retains possession, even if he can't score.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Sep 22 11.18am
Playing as a central striker in a 4-3-3 is no mean feat in the PL, you pretty much have to be an all rounder. I would suggest that occasionally, for a player, this can lead to them essentially abandoning their strengths in order to fulfill criteria of the role they are not accustom to and essentially doing no parts of the role particularly well (Benteke). As things currently stand, I would suggest Mateta is our best option up front for this reason as he has the physical, and to a less but still proficient extent the general footballing capability to do so however his main aim is still to put the ball in the back of the net. Benteke forever looked lost as to what he should be doing up there which essentially led to him being unable of even conceiving the notion of scoring and I fear Edouard is taking the same course. Just my opinion as always. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Sep 22 11.18am

Playing as a central striker in a 4-3-3 is no mean feat in the PL, you pretty much have to be an all rounder.

I would suggest that occasionally, for a player, this can lead to them essentially abandoning their strengths in order to fulfill criteria of the role they are not accustom to and essentially doing no parts of the role particularly well (Benteke).

As things currently stand, I would suggest Mateta is our best option up front for this reason as he has the physical, and to a less but still proficient extent the general footballing capability to do so however his main aim is still to put the ball in the back of the net.

Benteke forever looked lost as to what he should be doing up there which essentially led to him being unable of even conceiving the notion of scoring and I fear Edouard is taking the same course. Just my opinion as always.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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