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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 22 12.01pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Unfortunately, today's protest movements are not about getting what they want for themselves but forcing what they want onto the majority who don't want it. They are just anti-establishment movements hiding behind whatever banner they can think of. I agree with you, if economic migrants can get in a boat to here for a better life, why can't those that love the EU movement do the reverse journey and be happy too? If you think those arguing for overturning Brexit are simply anti-establishment, then you completely misread who they are and what their motivations are. Many won't have ever been politically active before, but see Brexit as a national disaster.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 23 Aug 22 12.03pm |
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The gambling-people wishing to cancel their bets AFTER THE HORSE HAS LOST can also participate. Good luck with that
Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford |
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 23 Aug 22 12.05pm |
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Did a majority want us out when the referendum took place , yes. That's a simple fact, not an opinion. Opinions about the result are just that.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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 georgenorman 23 Aug 22 12.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's political posturing, which can change rapidly if it is seen to be necessary. Did a majority want us out? A tiny majority who voted did, but that's not everyone, especially those too young to vote then, but could now. In any case, things change. Experiences teach lessons. People accept they made wrong decisions, which we all do. The beauty of democracy is nothing is ever cast in stone forever. Make a mistake and you can correct it. In time, we will. Perhaps not now, but we will. That's why we voted to live in a democracy rather than the non-democratic EU.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 23 Aug 22 12.08pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you think those arguing for overturning Brexit are simply anti-establishment, then you completely misread who they are and what their motivations are. Many won't have ever been politically active before, but see Brexit as a national disaster. How do you know many have not been politically active, pure supposition, as is your opinion that they see Brexit as a disaster.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 23 Aug 22 12.10pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
That's why we voted to live in a democracy rather than the non-democratic EU. It's ironic the Remainers cry democratic foul yet want to have people they didn't elect and therefore can't vote out have power over them.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Aug 22 12.31pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It comes as no surprise that the globalists, federalists and their useful idiot friends will never let Brexit lie. Brexit is the one single event that could save Britain from total disaster in the future. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Aug 2022 11.04am) Hear Hear
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 23 Aug 22 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you think those arguing for overturning Brexit are simply anti-establishment, then you completely misread who they are and what their motivations are. Many won't have ever been politically active before, but see Brexit as a national disaster. WE, the trouble is that during 40+ years that the UK was a member of the EU, many of us witnessed the Free Trade Area that we originally joined morph into something that the public had no means to object to. Those that complain about Brexit may not have lived under anything different and therefore 'change' scares them, but as I implied in my post, nobody is stopping them from enjoying the EU life by moving there. If they don't want to, that is their choice, but they do have a choice. If they cannot accept a democratic vote that allowed us to leave the EU, then perhaps they are leaning towards being anti-establishment.
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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cryrst  The garden of England 23 Aug 22 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's political posturing, which can change rapidly if it is seen to be necessary. Did a majority want us out? A tiny majority who voted did, but that's not everyone, especially those too young to vote then, but could now. In any case, things change. Experiences teach lessons. People accept they made wrong decisions, which we all do. The beauty of democracy is nothing is ever cast in stone forever. Make a mistake and you can correct it. In time, we will. Perhaps not now, but we will. I made a mistake and I wish I could correct it.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 22 2.07pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Did a majority want us out when the referendum took place , yes. That's a simple fact, not an opinion. Opinions about the result are just that. ' It’s my opinion that we will decide to rejoin the EU, in some way, sometime in the future. That’s the pendulum of politics. The grass is always greener in the next field.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 22 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
That's why we voted to live in a democracy rather than the non-democratic EU. Both the UK and the EU have their own versions of democracy. Neither is perfect, both can be improved, and should be. To suggest the EU is undemocratic might be a popular war-cry in Brexitland, but it really demonstrates the ignorance of those who do.
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| nead1 23 Aug 22 2.14pm |
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I agree with you; it will probably take a long time but the errors/costs associated with leaving will become clearer as each year passes - and they already are. As an aside, I admire your energy/knowledge in responding to some of the extraordinary views that get posted on this and similar topics.
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