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Kouyate Gone to Forest
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 sprites  Auckland 15 Aug 22 1.12am |
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Weird how there's no 'thanks and all the best' comms at all from the club. He's played a big role over the last few years.
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YT  Oxford 15 Aug 22 7.07am |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Like the way Benteke slipped out the back door without even a farewell wave... Benteke's departure was acknowledged in a tribute on the CPFC website, though, whereas there doesn't seem to be any mention of Kouyaté. By "strange" I meant it's odd that we let slip the kind of player we should be looking to sign.
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| palace99 New Mills 15 Aug 22 10.05am |
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i'm surprised the club could not agree a compromise - for example a 1 year deal with an extra year clause based on x appearances made in the season. He has got his 2 year deal now, so well done to him, however, would be surprised if Forest hasn't inserted a relegation clause. Whilst i like Kouyate he was well paid at Palace and did the same to West Ham as he did to ask. He was in the last year of his contract and asked for a big pay rise. WHU said no, clearly CPFC said yes. There is no loyalty in football!!!
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| YT Oxford 15 Aug 22 10.09am |
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Originally posted by palace99
i'm surprised the club could not agree a compromise - for example a 1 year deal with an extra year clause based on x appearances made in the season. He has got his 2 year deal now, so well done to him, however, would be surprised if Forest hasn't inserted a relegation clause. Whilst i like Kouyate he was well paid at Palace and did the same to West Ham as he did to ask. He was in the last year of his contract and asked for a big pay rise. WHU said no, clearly CPFC said yes. There is no loyalty in football!!! *us
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Goal Machine  The Cronx 15 Aug 22 11.01am |
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Strange one. Thought he was tremendous last season and also provided excellent cover at CB. Terrific signing for Forest to get an experienced versatile player like that. Will no doubt slot straight into their starting 11. I like to think he would have stayed if offered a 2 year contract which would have matched Forests offer. This not offering more than 1 year contracts to over 30's seems high risk. If we lose Cheick Doucouré to injury it now looks very ominous. I can only assume the club has plans to bring in replacements. At the moment it feels like we've gone a bit backwards. Let's judge it when the transfer window closes.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Aug 22 11.54am |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
Strange one. Thought he was tremendous last season and also provided excellent cover at CB. Terrific signing for Forest to get an experienced versatile player like that. Will no doubt slot straight into their starting 11. I like to think he would have stayed if offered a 2 year contract which would have matched Forests offer. This not offering more than 1 year contracts to over 30's seems high risk. If we lose Cheick Doucouré to injury it now looks very ominous. I can only assume the club has plans to bring in replacements. At the moment it feels like we've gone a bit backwards. Let's judge it when the transfer window closes.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 15 Aug 22 12.07pm |
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The only reason I can think of for allowing him to go is that we have a replacement in mind. He is more mobile than Milivojevic and considerably more aggressive than Schlupp or Riedewald, the only real comparator is Jimmy Mc as Hughes is a bit lightweight to compare, but Macca is constantly injured now so we are definitely short in the engine room. Doucoure cannot do it on his own. I can’t help but think that all the time we are short in the muscle positions it means we have to play Ayew instead of Olise because of his defensive efforts and clearly there are not many of us who want that.
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| Rachid Rachid Rachid 15 Aug 22 12.44pm |
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Disappointing considering his performance level, versatility and physical presence over the last three years in particular.
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| taylors lovechild 15 Aug 22 3.06pm |
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Kouyate is a great athlete and a physical presence. But he can't pass and isn't great when he's in possession and under pressure. The club may have simply decided he didn't justify his high wages on that basis, especially as he may only have played a bit part this season. So far Doucoure looks far superior in terms of his passing and control and doesn't seem shy of a tackle either. We still need another central midfielder with a bit of bite though.
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| palace99 New Mills 15 Aug 22 4.19pm |
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Originally posted by YT
*us sorry typo/predictive txt. The difference is that WHU didn't let him run down his contract, so they had the extension discussions with 12 months remaining. It was slightly different for us as 4 years on he's now 32 so had minimal re-sale value. However, it does show that maybe we could have had the contract negotiations 12 months ago - at 31 maybe we could have got a decent fee. All speculation. Just a shame that the club wanted him, he wanted to stay yet we couldn't agree a compromise. Maybe our medical team had some input re a 2 year deal. He's played a lot of football over the last 10 or so years and his body has taken a lot of punishment.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 15 Aug 22 4.25pm |
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Originally posted by palace99
sorry typo/predictive txt. The difference is that WHU didn't let him run down his contract, so they had the extension discussions with 12 months remaining. It was slightly different for us as 4 years on he's now 32 so had minimal re-sale value. However, it does show that maybe we could have had the contract negotiations 12 months ago - at 31 maybe we could have got a decent fee. All speculation. Just a shame that the club wanted him, he wanted to stay yet we couldn't agree a compromise. Maybe our medical team had some input re a 2 year deal. He's played a lot of football over the last 10 or so years and his body has taken a lot of punishment. He must be ok physically has passed his Forest medical and they have given him a 2 year deal.
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| nead1 15 Aug 22 5.29pm |
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My recollection of the recent policy Palace have adopted on anyone over 30 is to take it season by season and only offer 1 year; in the round, that seems a sensible approach to me and did not create problems with Tomkins, Clyne, McArthur etc. I would have thought there was the opportunity to be a bit creative with Kouyate whilst not breaching the general policy; for whatever reason however, it has not been possible to find middle ground. The other player who comes to mind where this might become an issue is Wilf who I believe is currently 29; maybe he will still be under 30 when/if he negotiates a new contract which might avoid the issue.
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