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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 27 May 22 3.08pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

I think VG wants to finish his career with Villarreal, dont know if that is too early for him

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 27 May 22 3.22pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I think VG wants to finish his career with Villarreal, dont know if that is too early for him

I thought it was Valencia as that was his old club. Anyway, he is 35 and our policy of a more youthful squad would point to him being the likely leaver of the 3.

 

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Palace in the Blood Flag 27 May 22 5.51pm Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I thought it was Valencia as that was his old club. Anyway, he is 35 and our policy of a more youthful squad would point to him being the likely leaver of the 3.

I think you are right Butland has been played a few times recently when VG was fit. This could be for a great number of reasons but one could be Viera is working out if he can be Number 1 next season.

Pope is a complete non starter Burnley want £40 million we will not spend that. Sam Johnstone is a very good bet but he will not come to be number 2. So he is coming to replace VG or has a firm understanding he will be number 1 very soon. There is a question I suppose what will Butland do ? I don't think he will be happy but he may feel he can hold the No 1 jersey

 

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EddieMac Flag 27 May 22 8.11pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I seem to be in a small minority but I've really not been at all impressed by Butland this season. He seems to be a good character/part of the squad but in my view, his goalkeeping skills have been short of what's required. If Johnstone, Pope or anyone else comes in as our number 2, I'd see it as an ugrade.

I agree with you on this. I was hoping Butland would be a lot better but his best days are behind him. Upgrade on both of our keepers is needed and I don’t think Johnstone will be coming in as a number 2.

 

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Croydon-Trucker Flag 28 May 22 8.25am Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

I agree with you on this. I was hoping Butland would be a lot better but his best days are behind him. Upgrade on both of our keepers is needed and I don’t think Johnstone will be coming in as a number 2.

Yes i agree with you there Eddie , we do need an upgrade on both keepers . Butland is good but very clamity James like and Vincente is very short for a keeper and an excellent shot stopper but doesnt command the box very well and is hessitant about coming for crosses . Althought i have been impressed with the ammount of clean sheets they have kept ! But i would put that down to fantastic defending .At the same time we had a man mountian in Hennessey and he wasnt very good either . When you see some of the keepers in the league they are the differance between winning and losing a match . ( excuse the spelling and grammer please , me were never grate at it not)

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 28 May 22 9.47am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Have we had a home produced goalkeeper since Paul Hammond who's played more than a handful of games?

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 28 May 22 10.29am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Have we had a home produced goalkeeper since Paul Hammond who's played more than a handful of games?


Can't think of one at the moment. I wonder how many PL teams have a keeper who came from their own academy.

We sold our last U23 keeper to Portsmouth last summer. The current lad (Whitworth) is only 18 but looks promising. Of course, it could be 4 or 5 years before we see how good he's likely to become. Keepers do tend to develop later than outfield players and, of course, have a greater longevity in the game.

 

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Omph Flag Liverpool 28 May 22 11.13am Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Yes i agree with you there Eddie , we do need an upgrade on both keepers . Butland is good but very clamity James like and Vincente is very short for a keeper and an excellent shot stopper but doesnt command the box very well and is hessitant about coming for crosses . Althought i have been impressed with the ammount of clean sheets they have kept ! But i would put that down to fantastic defending .At the same time we had a man mountian in Hennessey and he wasnt very good either . When you see some of the keepers in the league they are the differance between winning and losing a match . ( excuse the spelling and grammer please , me were never grate at it not)

Guaita is not a giant but neither is he a tiddler

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This table is from last season but he's as big or taller than Lloris, Schmeichel, Pickford, Leno, Ramsdale and Patricio and more or less as tall as De Gea.

 

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mtp1958 Flag Oswestry 28 May 22 11.50am Send a Private Message to mtp1958 Add mtp1958 as a friend

For me i fell Butland is better at crosses and not as good shot stopper , Guita doesnt come off his line for any crosses hence so many goals form wide areas that puts pressure on your center backs to get it right , butland did come out more and punched better , it is a hard call , but if johnston comes 1 will have to go Buts is younger so he has 3 to 4 seasons left , hard call

 

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 28 May 22 2.38pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Tough crowd on here. Guaita and Butland are both excellent and have made very few errors. We've been very fortunate IMO.

I think Guaita is the better overall and Butland doesn't seem like the sort of character to want stay in the background particularly given his age and the fact both have another year left.

 

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esox lucius Flag Deal 28 May 22 2.58pm Send a Private Message to esox lucius Add esox lucius as a friend

Footballs a dog eat dog world, if the club feel that Johnstone is an up grade on what we have then as much as I like him and he’s done nothing wrong VG might have to settle for the bench.. sadly that’s football life !

 

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CT Charlie Flag 28 May 22 4.37pm Send a Private Message to CT Charlie Add CT Charlie as a friend

I suspect that Johnstone is considered on the same level as VG, with both of them slightly ahead of Butland. If Johnstone is willing, he'll sign and then share time with VG for much of the season, moving into the sole #1 position when VG returns to Valencia in the summer of '23.

Butland? He could stay as #3 or allowed to seek greener pastures. He's a valuable #2 in the PL and would be a solid #1 for many Championship teams.

 

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