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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 May 22 5.08pm | |
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It can all be boiled down to the simplicity of: 1. To do well in league, win cups etc. you need to win games Unfortunately the world does not work like that. Far from the OP (I forgotseded who?) being controversial I think the original post was very good. I myself often fall victim to the thought pattern demonstrated above. Asides from Kane, Haaland, Mbappe and a veteran Lewandowski I fail to see many forwards in the game who'd guarantee goals. Again, very good OP and if funds are available I'd like some additions/reinforcement in midfield and maybe a new RB please. AWB is a romantic thought but I actually thought Clyne was getting back to top level past few months and again, unless we have a sure bet gem, I'm happy to wait another season if necessary. Guaita Clyne - Anderson - Guehi - Mitchell New player, Hughes/Kouyate/McArthur Gallagher replacement/Eze Olise Mateta Zaha Butland
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Uphill Bedford 26 May 22 5.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Qwijibo
Unless Benteke goes, I don't actually think we need a striker. Even then it would be rotation/backup. Édouard should be given time to improve. Zaha will become a striker. Mateta will improve a bit with experience. Reinvigorating midfield and RB is more important, and maybe in goal too. Eze has looked good in the past few weeks, so getting him and Olise to where we hope they can get to would give us as many options as buying a centre forward would do. The game is way more fluid these days, and teams are less reliant on a target man anyway. Ultimately it depends on what we have to spend and who is available, but striker is not where I would see the most urgent need to invest. Replacing Gallagher and the ageing midfield is more important. I am in full agreement. I genuinely believe that Christian Eriksen could be the answer.
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 26 May 22 5.38pm | |
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Mateta is the best we have at the moment, Edouard has to improve a lot to be even as good as Mateta, Benteke is total rubbish, Plange we dont know about yet.
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 26 May 22 5.40pm | |
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Maybe its easier to by a right footed left winger and play wilf as CF
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Brinscalleagle2 Brinscall 26 May 22 6.01pm | |
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Our manager has said we need to improve in our decision making in the final third and take the chances we create. This is a nudge to the players that they are not producing. Unless they improve the manager will be wanting new strikers. I suspect he has his doubts about them.COYP
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southnorwoodhill 26 May 22 6.21pm | |
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Chances are created, in the main, from midfield. We don't need at this moment to change the strike force. We need to upgrade our midfield players, particularly with Gallagher going. Also getting numbers into the box when we attack, another thing that Gallagher added with his energetic play.
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Robk 26 May 22 6.52pm | |
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JP Mateta should certainly be given more time.. he’s improved significantly under Viera and that’s only the start.. think he will continue to improve.. he’ll definitely score more goals.. his pressing is really good... I think Luke Plange is a completely different sort of player who’ll probably play off Mateta... Edouard is also a completely different again... we have a great mix...
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MrRobbo Chaldon 26 May 22 8.12pm | |
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A lot of sense getting spoken today! The strikers are decent, not top draw but decent. Being the size club we are, we cant afford to buy the finished article. We have to find these 15m players and take a bit of a gamble. JPM looked like a gamble to fair, but has now come good. OE started great, but has gone off the boil. But as someone else stated, its only really the top couple of clubs that have superstar strikers. And our attacking unit is really strong. If the goals are spread amongst the team, the role of the front man isn't so focused on scoring.
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The Dolphin 27 May 22 5.47am | |
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I forgot about Plange!
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Omph Liverpool 27 May 22 6.25am | |
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My view is that there may be a possible misconception that the CF needs to be our main goal getter. In many ways the output of our strikers simply matches the trends in the modern game. The CF is no longer there just to score goals and there is a firm trend to inverted wingers being the main supply line. Second point is our CFs scored 15 goals between them last season. To what extent does it matter that those goals were shared between 3 players? 15 goals is a decent return and not far short of 20 which is probably the optimum for a club of our size/ranking. General thought is though that the problems lie in how well our forward line combines to create the right number and type of chances. We often looked dominant and/or pretty last season without actually creating that much. Perfectly happy here to run with Olise Mateta/Edouard Zaha next season with the two inverted wingers combining to be our most likely source of goals with the central forward creating space and chipping in. To make this happen it would help to have a RB who can overlap on the right as Mitchell has on the left to allow Olise to cut in to even more effect.
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Painter Croydon 27 May 22 6.26am | |
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Originally posted by Fatherken
Both Edouard and Meteta are not premiership standard strikers and should be replaced . Out of the two , if we had to keep one it would be Edouard . How would you define premiership standard? We aren't in the market for a Haaland or Kane.
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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 27 May 22 9.55am | |
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Originally posted by Painter
How would you define premiership standard? We aren't in the market for a Haaland or Kane. I didn't get this comment either. You could argue a number of teams aren't PL standard but their Modus Operandi is to muddle through and survive. The two mentioned have the potential to have a decent career in the top league IMO.
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