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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 29 Apr 22 2.57pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC The most likely thing to happen here would be burglary but I have a huge, vicious dog. There are often burglaries where I live. Also, if you hang around town drunk in the early hours of the morning you'll probably end up in a fight. We enjoy our drunken violence. There are gangs of the same type of youths here now - there has been one bad stabbing here in the last few years. The usual suspects, frankly. You do have to note though, when you talk about safety, these people are stabbing each other. They're generally not stabbing random members of the public. Although there are some cases, of course. Last couple of times I was in Croydon, I felt totally safe. If that was false security or not, I don't know. Yes, a bit like Croydon , most stabbings are youth gang stuff, and I walk about town most days, even the rough bits and have never had any trouble-not since my going out on the razzle days in my twenties!
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Any european country i fancy! 29 Apr 22 2.57pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

The most likely thing to happen here would be burglary but I have a huge, vicious dog. There are often burglaries where I live. Also, if you hang around town drunk in the early hours of the morning you'll probably end up in a fight. We enjoy our drunken violence.
There are gangs of the same type of youths here now - there has been one bad stabbing here in the last few years. The usual suspects, frankly.
You do have to note though, when you talk about safety, these people are stabbing each other. They're generally not stabbing random members of the public. Although there are some cases, of course. Last couple of times I was in Croydon, I felt totally safe. If that was false security or not, I don't know.

Yes, a bit like Croydon , most stabbings are youth gang stuff, and I walk about town most days, even the rough bits and have never had any trouble-not since my going out on the razzle days in my twenties!

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 29 Apr 22 3.03pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly I've seen quite a lot of violence in and around Dulwich. In London, only a stones throw can separate millionaires from scuzzy areas. The P4 bus ride can seem like a journey between multiple worlds on the right day. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 29 Apr 22 3.03pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I've seen quite a lot of violence in and around Dulwich. In London, only a stones throw can separate millionaires from scuzzy areas.

The P4 bus ride can seem like a journey between multiple worlds on the right day.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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radsyrendot From Coventry now in Leicester 29 Apr 22 4.11pm
Courts need to be more fiming on these feral scum
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From Coventry now in Leicester 29 Apr 22 4.11pm

Courts need to be more fiming on these feral scum

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PalazioVecchio south pole 29 Apr 22 11.23pm
forget about Beckenham, even the poshest streets in central London have seen gangs and stabbings. streets where the starting price for a home is a cool twenty million. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 29 Apr 22 11.23pm

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forget about Beckenham, even the poshest streets in central London have seen gangs and stabbings.

streets where the starting price for a home is a cool twenty million.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Apr 22 11.56pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio forget about Beckenham, even the poshest streets in central London have seen gangs and stabbings. streets where the starting price for a home is a cool twenty million. Such as where? Not exactly a place to have a turf war. Mugging people possibly. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 29 Apr 22 11.56pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

forget about Beckenham, even the poshest streets in central London have seen gangs and stabbings.

streets where the starting price for a home is a cool twenty million.

Such as where? Not exactly a place to have a turf war. Mugging people possibly.

COYP

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HKOwen Hong Kong 30 Apr 22 1.42am
Originally posted by Nicholas91 The P4 bus ride can seem like a journey between multiple worlds on the right day. Memories, I remember the first week of the P4 bus service, it started at Brockley Rise in those days and on to Brixton. It was about a twenty seater I think, no idea now. Am thinking was 1972/3 I see now the route has changed a lot, it used to be down Forest Hill Rd then Underhill Rd to Lordship Lane Was a real local service with same few drivers who you got to know Edited by HKOwen (30 Apr 2022 1.52am) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 30 Apr 22 1.42am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

The P4 bus ride can seem like a journey between multiple worlds on the right day.

Memories, I remember the first week of the P4 bus service, it started at Brockley Rise in those days and on to Brixton.

It was about a twenty seater I think, no idea now.

Am thinking was 1972/3

I see now the route has changed a lot, it used to be down Forest Hill Rd then Underhill Rd to Lordship Lane

Was a real local service with same few drivers who you got to know

Edited by HKOwen (30 Apr 2022 1.52am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Badger11 Beckenham 30 Apr 22 7.52am
I live less than 5 minutes from BJ. Beckenham is a nice area however I avoid it on Friday and Saturday night as all the idiots from Penge / Lewisham / Downham etc come in for a night out. Groups of young men swaggering around, narrow pavements and then spotting your rivals from another area, do the maths. The worst bit is actually on the bridge because you have a takeaway 2 or 3 pubs and nightclubs so lots of people milling about and like I said a narrow pavement. The rest of the week is fine it is a very middle class area. In the last 20 odd years there have been at least 3 fatal stabbings in this 20 yard area. The locals have tried to close down the night clubs but the police are not interested they know that is where the trouble will be so can manage it. I suppose if it was spread out a bit more they might have to do a bit more work. We used to have a paddy wagon full of cops parked on the corner of the junction and that certainly stopped the trouble but I guess they are now too busy checking their pronouns. PS I have been away so I missed this story don't know any details or what time of day it happened. Edited by Badger11 (30 Apr 2022 7.56am) One more point
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Beckenham 30 Apr 22 7.52am

I live less than 5 minutes from BJ. Beckenham is a nice area however I avoid it on Friday and Saturday night as all the idiots from Penge / Lewisham / Downham etc come in for a night out.

Groups of young men swaggering around, narrow pavements and then spotting your rivals from another area, do the maths.

The worst bit is actually on the bridge because you have a takeaway 2 or 3 pubs and nightclubs so lots of people milling about and like I said a narrow pavement. The rest of the week is fine it is a very middle class area.

In the last 20 odd years there have been at least 3 fatal stabbings in this 20 yard area.

The locals have tried to close down the night clubs but the police are not interested they know that is where the trouble will be so can manage it. I suppose if it was spread out a bit more they might have to do a bit more work. We used to have a paddy wagon full of cops parked on the corner of the junction and that certainly stopped the trouble but I guess they are now too busy checking their pronouns.

PS
I have been away so I missed this story don't know any details or what time of day it happened.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Apr 2022 7.56am)

One more point

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YT Oxford 30 Apr 22 8.04am
Originally posted by georgenorman I'm old enough to remember when the likes of Purley and Beckenham were considered quite posh. Purley? Say no more. Know what I mean, Sir? Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 30 Apr 22 8.04am

Originally posted by georgenorman

I'm old enough to remember when the likes of Purley and Beckenham were considered quite posh.

Purley? Say no more. Know what I mean, Sir?

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 30 Apr 22 8.08am
Originally posted by YT Purley? Say no more. Know what I mean, Sir? nudge, nudge..wink, wink.. Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.
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Sussex, ex-Cronx. 30 Apr 22 8.08am

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Originally posted by YT

Purley? Say no more. Know what I mean, Sir?

nudge, nudge..wink, wink..

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 30 Apr 22 8.16am
Originally posted by croydon proud I see the guy stabbed in Beckenham Junction on April 2 has died, the other stabbed guy is ok I believe, Used to be such a nice area, its hard to know where might be safe these days-perhaps Wisbech or ASCPFC had the right idea after all , Even lanzo and eagleman! I moved to Goring 4 years ago after 58 odd years in croydon / sth.london. never looked back. there are still idjits down here, but knife crime is (currently) very low. Brighton is only 40 mins away which keeps a lot of the toe rags away. Near to me are Rustington, Angmering, ferring, all fairly quite with an 80s feel to life, crime in Worthing is higher as its a holiday destination / day trippers etc. I'd highly recommend it CP. I still work on the brush in cronx and the change since I left, within 4 years, is shocking, its lost. You notice it far more if you dont see it every day. Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.
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Sussex, ex-Cronx. 30 Apr 22 8.16am

Originally posted by croydon proud

I see the guy stabbed in Beckenham Junction on April 2 has died, the other stabbed guy is ok I believe, Used to be such a nice area, its hard to know where might be safe these days-perhaps Wisbech or ASCPFC had the right idea after all , Even lanzo and eagleman!

I moved to Goring 4 years ago after 58 odd years in croydon / sth.london.
never looked back.
there are still idjits down here, but knife crime is (currently) very low.
Brighton is only 40 mins away which keeps a lot of the toe rags away.
Near to me are Rustington, Angmering, ferring, all fairly quite with an 80s feel to life, crime in Worthing is higher as its a holiday destination / day trippers etc.
I'd highly recommend it CP.
I still work on the brush in cronx and the change since I left, within 4 years, is shocking, its lost.
You notice it far more if you dont see it every day.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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Mapletree Croydon 30 Apr 22 8.41am
Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall I moved to Goring 4 years ago after 58 odd years in croydon / sth.london. never looked back. there are still idjits down here, but knife crime is (currently) very low. Brighton is only 40 mins away which keeps a lot of the toe rags away. Near to me are Rustington, Angmering, ferring, all fairly quite with an 80s feel to life, crime in Worthing is higher as its a holiday destination / day trippers etc. I'd highly recommend it CP. I still work on the brush in cronx and the change since I left, within 4 years, is shocking, its lost. You notice it far more if you dont see it every day. 80s feel eh? I hadn’t realised you are that old but I was aware the area is big on mobility scooter racing.
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Mapletree

Croydon 30 Apr 22 8.41am

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

80s feel eh? I hadn’t realised you are that old but I was aware the area is big on mobility scooter racing.

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Apr 22 10.15am
Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall I moved to Goring 4 years ago after 58 odd years in croydon / sth.london. never looked back. there are still idjits down here, but knife crime is (currently) very low. Brighton is only 40 mins away which keeps a lot of the toe rags away. Near to me are Rustington, Angmering, ferring, all fairly quite with an 80s feel to life, crime in Worthing is higher as its a holiday destination / day trippers etc. I'd highly recommend it CP. I still work on the brush in cronx and the change since I left, within 4 years, is shocking, its lost. You notice it far more if you dont see it every day. I moved to Shoreham by Sea 5 years ago after 30+ years in Hove. Until recently SbS was a nice little town. But slowly but surely it's being overrun by teenage kids thieving from local shops, robbing people and vandalising property and cars. They don't care about being caught on CCTV. Their images are all over local Facebook pages and I see these ' kids ' walking free every day around town. The Police seemingly are unable or unwilling to do anything. I would guess they are aged around 15-17 years old, but they are mostly six footers - not little kids. We are getting to the point where residents will form a group to protect people and property and patrol the streets. That may just provoke the Police into doing something. As for Beckenham, my old stomping ground, I tend to visit midweek and have never had any problems there at that time. Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Apr 22 10.15am

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

I moved to Shoreham by Sea 5 years ago after 30+ years in Hove.

Until recently SbS was a nice little town. But slowly but surely it's being overrun by teenage kids thieving from local shops, robbing people and vandalising property and cars.

They don't care about being caught on CCTV. Their images are all over local Facebook pages and I see these ' kids ' walking free every day around town. The Police seemingly are unable or unwilling to do anything. I would guess they are aged around 15-17 years old, but they are mostly six footers - not little kids.

We are getting to the point where residents will form a group to protect people and property and patrol the streets. That may just provoke the Police into doing something.

As for Beckenham, my old stomping ground, I tend to visit midweek and have never had any problems there at that time.

Old, Ungifted and White

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