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BlueJay Flag UK 15 Mar 22 6.42pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

As a veteran myself, and for the many veterans on here, it is clear that veterans have a very high risk of not getting on well in their lives. It's a shame and perhaps not fully understood. I guess veterans are often young when they join, probably not from privileged backgrounds, are then institutionalised and then find "normal" life hard to handle. This was exacerbated by the drinking and fighting ethos of the armed forces (in my time anyway). What I will say is the modern recruit is not the same. They are not the ready to fight drinkers that we were - and it's probably the right way to be. I know there are plenty on here who understand what I'm talking about.
For concrete stuff, I got drunk and someone mouthed at me a couple of weeks ago. You can imagine the outcome. Frankly slightly embarrassed - I'm not sure it's the best way to be.

Is there any meaningful support system to speak of after, or is it mostly a 'get on with it'? I guess throughout service you're in that kind of pushing concerns to the back of your mind mode anyway though, so asking for help just may not be the done thing or something that is all that effective once a person is reprogrammed for a time, then told to forgot all of that and get back to 'normal'.

Any new reality, especially one with fight or flight, or traumatic aspects to it, must be a path that is incredibly difficult if not impossible to entirely walk down. Becomes more about trying to find a way forward I suppose? If you could rewind life would you do it all again? Or if that's a tricky question, maybe a better one is would be recommend it for those you served with, or was it a real mixed bag in terms of how prepared and suited they were for army life?


 

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Stirlingsays Flag 15 Mar 22 6.56pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

As a veteran myself, and for the many veterans on here, it is clear that veterans have a very high risk of not getting on well in their lives. It's a shame and perhaps not fully understood. I guess veterans are often young when they join, probably not from privileged backgrounds, are then institutionalised and then find "normal" life hard to handle. This was exacerbated by the drinking and fighting ethos of the armed forces (in my time anyway). What I will say is the modern recruit is not the same. They are not the ready to fight drinkers that we were - and it's probably the right way to be. I know there are plenty on here who understand what I'm talking about.
For concrete stuff, I got drunk and someone mouthed at me a couple of weeks ago. You can imagine the outcome. Frankly slightly embarrassed - I'm not sure it's the best way to be.

It is....nothing wrong with a certain amount of pride.

You just need the right outlet.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2022 6.57pm)

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Mar 22 7.16pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Jim Davidson is either very brave or very foolhardy...

for

a) supporting the Clowns

b) confronting the shrill screaming Harpies of the Left

 


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the.universal 15 Mar 22 7.31pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Is there any meaningful support system to speak of after, or is it mostly a 'get on with it'? I guess throughout service you're in that kind of pushing concerns to the back of your mind mode anyway though, so asking for help just may not be the done thing or something that is all that effective once a person is reprogrammed for a time, then told to forgot all of that and get back to 'normal'.

Any new reality, especially one with fight or flight, or traumatic aspects to it, must be a path that is incredibly difficult if not impossible to entirely walk down. Becomes more about trying to find a way forward I suppose? If you could rewind life would you do it all again? Or if that's a tricky question, maybe a better one is would be recommend it for those you served with, or was it a real mixed bag in terms of how prepared and suited they were for army life?

Good questions, I知 interested to hear the answers too.

 


Vive le Roy!

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BlueJay Flag UK 15 Mar 22 7.35pm

Originally posted by the.universal

Good questions, I知 interested to hear the answers too.

Yes, there's never any harm in learning more; asking rather than assuming. When someone shows the hand that is their life, it takes little to show that the respect it deserves.

And as a wider point, there's definitely not enough support for veterans, that's one thing I think we can all agree on.

Edited by BlueJay (16 Mar 2022 12.04am)

 

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the.universal 15 Mar 22 8.16pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Yes, there's never any harm in learning more; asking rather than assuming.

And as a wider point, there's definitely not enough support for veterans, that's one thing I think we can all agree on.

Yes, I think most people would agree. While I知 not a fan of the way Jim Davison conducts his personal life, I do appreciate he has raised it as an issue.

 


Vive le Roy!

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BlueJay Flag UK 16 Mar 22 1.35am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

, as a young(ish ) man from SE London who enjoys his comedy,

Give this podcast a whirl.. [Link] threads the needle and points out everyones foolishness,failings and the absurdity of it all!

Edited by BlueJay (16 Mar 2022 2.52am)

 

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Beastie Flag 16 Mar 22 8.01am Send a Private Message to Beastie Add Beastie as a friend

Anyway, how come ex-servicemen are vets now?

 

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becky Flag over the moon 16 Mar 22 8.02am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

Yes, I think most people would agree. While I知 not a fan of the way Jim Davison conducts his personal life, I do appreciate he has raised it as an issue.

He has been involved with the Armed Forces for a many, many years, firstly with visits and shows to units on tour (he organised a lot of them too), then he founded the charity Care After Combat, of which he was CEO for many years. Now he is Chairman of The British Forces Foundation Charity, and got his OBE in 2001 for his services to charity.

Perhaps a bit more to him than just a politically incorrect-veering to blue- comedian and a manky Charlton supporter.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 16 Mar 22 8.26am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

A cnut of the first order.

Don't be so hard on yourself Universal.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 16 Mar 22 8.49am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

Yes, I think most people would agree. While I知 not a fan of the way Jim Davison conducts his personal life, I do appreciate he has raised it as an issue.


I like him.

Gets a lot of abuse but he's done a lot of good all the way through his career.

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Mar 22 9.12am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

As a veteran myself, and for the many veterans on here, it is clear that veterans have a very high risk of not getting on well in their lives. It's a shame and perhaps not fully understood. I guess veterans are often young when they join, probably not from privileged backgrounds, are then institutionalised and then find "normal" life hard to handle. This was exacerbated by the drinking and fighting ethos of the armed forces (in my time anyway). What I will say is the modern recruit is not the same. They are not the ready to fight drinkers that we were - and it's probably the right way to be. I know there are plenty on here who understand what I'm talking about.
For concrete stuff, I got drunk and someone mouthed at me a couple of weeks ago. You can imagine the outcome. Frankly slightly embarrassed - I'm not sure it's the best way to be.

Blimey AS, that's just transported me back 46 years to when I 1st joined up, I'm ex RN & we had exactly the same culture tho most of our rucks were either against the army, other Ships or the 'Bootnecks'(Marines). I can't remember, ever, being helped to get back to whatever normal was. When I returned from the South Atlantic in '82, after being discharged from hospital & service it was Jim Davidson's charity Care After Combat who gave me a bit of support, but others were far more in need of their services.

 


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