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Badger11 Beckenham 17 Nov 21 6.02pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
The law's the law, and they went beyond highlighting their cause when they chose to ignore it. I have a level of respect for those willing to serve time for their beliefs (where they are peaceful) but clearly the level of disruption causes to ordinary people did more to get peoples backs up than make people think about the environment. I respect someone who breaks the law and accepts the consequences as price they have to pay. This lot and many other types of protestors don't want to face the consequences, that I cannot respect.
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cryrst The garden of England 17 Nov 21 7.23pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I hope they all get a padded cell! The government nicked £47 billion under our noses, so they and their friends and family can continue to live a life of luxury for the next hundreds of years- don"t forget 47 billion is 47 thousand million, and these people block roads for insulation! If they blocked roads, bridges, parliament etc, for an investigation in to where the PPE money has gone, I would be standing with them, but house insulation? Very predictable
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BlueJay UK 17 Nov 21 7.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I respect someone who breaks the law and accepts the consequences as price they have to pay. This lot and many other types of protestors don't want to face the consequences, that I cannot respect. Well yes exactly. They disrupted the lives of plenty of ordinary people who likely supported many of the same ideas they hold. If they want to stick it to decision makers that's one thing, but this was an unfortunate approach.
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steeleye20 Croydon 17 Nov 21 7.35pm | |
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I think 28 days is the norm for contempt, usually judges do not unnecessarily commit to prison. That would mean, in effect 14 days actual or they may just get released as prisons have enough to handle already, they don't actually need this type of person. Prisons are usually quite warm as it dulls the senses. There is no point to prison for this, as apart from the initial shock which wears off very quickly, the result may be negative as the prisoner comes under other inmates influences. A meaningful fine would have been far more appropriate.
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YT Oxford 17 Nov 21 7.59pm | |
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Originally posted by crystal-purley
Probably Insulate Britain. I am in favour of insulating UK houses but not necessarily to the extent that they have been carrying it to. If you think that the Grenfell disaster literally was murder, then you literally don't understand the definition of murder. And we didn't need a Grenfell commission to tell us that people can get away with murder; it's been happening since time began.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 21 8.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I respect someone who breaks the law and accepts the consequences as price they have to pay. This lot and many other types of protestors don't want to face the consequences, that I cannot respect. I don't. Your statement reminds me of what Wedgwood Benn once said, that his conscience was above the law. I don't think that's right and is similar to those who claim that their God's law is above civil law. It's a slippery slope which leads to many of the problems we see in today's world. I believe the law applies to everyone, and no-one should break it and accept the consequences. Should they do so, then the consequences are not sufficient. Protest, campaign and argue as much as you wish, but always within the law.
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Stirlingsays 17 Nov 21 8.21pm | |
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Pure bag carrying elitism. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2021 8.22pm)
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Spiderman Horsham 17 Nov 21 8.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They are very short-sighted people who are actually traitors to their cause. Making a case for greater insulation, in order to lower the amount of fuel we need to keep as warm, is perfectly sensible. Most of us agree, and so does the government. Enraging public opinion by causing chaos sends completely the wrong messages and creates negative connotations for a worthy cause. Stupid! Agreed I was caught up on M25 during their first protest. Cars/ lorries stopped in traffic jams with engines continually running, does nothing for climate change. Most protesters I have seen interviewed were from Northern and Western England, wonder if they drive to the M25? Idiots who do nothing for a ultimately worthy cause
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HKOwen Hong Kong 17 Nov 21 10.07pm | |
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Exactly, but "murder" fits a narrative.
Originally posted by YT
If you think that the Grenfell disaster literally was murder, then you literally don't understand the definition of murder. And we didn't need a Grenfell commission to tell us that people can get away with murder; it's been happening since time began.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Nov 21 8.32am | |
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They won't mind being glued to the floor of the prison, I'm sure.
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Badger11 Beckenham 18 Nov 21 9.08am | |
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I just wish the media would ignore these people who represent no one. Today some of the jailed are claiming they will go on hunger strike. The thing these people really fear is lack of publicity they have been popping on on TV and radio shows for weeks, if the media ignore them they will soon melt away.
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BlueJay UK 18 Nov 21 9.14am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I just wish the media would ignore these people who represent no one. Today some of the jailed are claiming they will go on hunger strike. The thing these people really fear is lack of publicity they have been popping on on TV and radio shows for weeks, if the media ignore them they will soon melt away. Offer them avocado on toast and they'll soon back down.
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