Don't leave shoes in your garden! . Foxes only breed in the correct amount for the area they live in unlike cockroaches,mice etc who continue to breed and are only limited by the food supply.I fed my foxes during lockdown and it was far better watching them than the cr*p on t.v.

I've got a mate who witnessed a fox kill his cherished long-eared rabbit in front of him. He's not a vengeful sort of bloke, but he really took against this fox and vowed retribution.

Cutting a long story short, he borrowed a gun and some night goggles and was ready for said fox next time he heard it visit his garden. Sure enough, he heard movement one night and burst through his patio doors wearing nothing but his night goggles and brandishing his gun ready to shoot.

A terrified voice came out of the darkness. "Don't shoot. Please don't shoot." Apparently some bloke had been taken short coming home from the pub and was relieving himself against my mate's wall.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

Would you like to be ripped apart by dogs?

Foxes inflict this kind of death on prey regularly, of course. Many a pet bunny or chicken has met such a fate. The difference is that, as humans, we understand suffering and
therefore, one has to wonder about the mentality of someone who takes pleasure in inflicting such suffering. Labelling a mammal as vermin hardly changes the reality.

Being sadistic is one of the worst traits someone can have, I would say.

I was pleasantly surprised that a few people I routinely disagree with here display such kindness when it comes to being averse to animals getting ripped to pieces while in a state of terror. It appears that unfortunately even on this you're nonplussed!

Just because you use the word 'vermin' to describe them it doesn't change the fact that people are getting off on extreme cruelty to animals as sport. You wouldn't want some sadist doing that to your pet dog or cat, so maybe consider that it's not much different when it happens to a fox.

I think it would be fair, based on science, to say that if an unborn baby is able to feel pain, abortion should be illegal (except for exceptional circumstances). I believe that is at 20 weeks and view any later abortions than that as more convenience for the parent than concern for the baby. Out of sight out or mind.

Also, while our limit of 24 weeks is beyond this point, it is also worth noting that it is perfectly legal in this country to abort Down's Syndrome babies UP UNTIL BIRTH!

Edited by BlueJay (21 Oct 2021 1.54pm)

I confess I didn't even realise until recently when a Down Syndrome woman tried to get the law changed and lost [Link]

The reasoning appeared to be that because sometimes it's difficult to tell if a child has Downs until after 24 weeks, such decisions are an exception to the rule. A sad day for her no doubt, as realistically it's not that far removed from an argument that says it's fine to abort her life now!