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BlueJay UK 14 Oct 21 8.46pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Terrorism seems to have gone from sophisticated bombs & 747's to kitchen knives and ramming cars into people. try to ban those 'weapons'. ideologies (including religion) are far more dangerous than most weapons. Available for access to any kid in a library/bookshop. And increasing it's Internet algorithms with the focus being on keeping eyeballs on screens by offering more and more 'full on' examples of whatever your 'cup of tea' is that draw people to unnerving ideologies. The road to profit (whether ads, or donation type models by those with 'strident' views) rarely aligns with anything that actually benefits the viewer as a person. 'Real world' indoctrination is clearly of concern too, but the increasing role that going 'off piste' while on the Internet plays cannot be overstated. What to do about it though, who knows... Edited by BlueJay (14 Oct 2021 8.52pm)
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UK 14 Oct 21 8.46pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Terrorism seems to have gone from sophisticated bombs & 747's to kitchen knives and ramming cars into people.

try to ban those 'weapons'.

ideologies (including religion) are far more dangerous than most weapons.

Available for access to any kid in a library/bookshop.

And increasing it's Internet algorithms with the focus being on keeping eyeballs on screens by offering more and more 'full on' examples of whatever your 'cup of tea' is that draw people to unnerving ideologies. The road to profit (whether ads, or donation type models by those with 'strident' views) rarely aligns with anything that actually benefits the viewer as a person.

'Real world' indoctrination is clearly of concern too, but the increasing role that going 'off piste' while on the Internet plays cannot be overstated. What to do about it though, who knows...

Edited by BlueJay (14 Oct 2021 8.52pm)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 14 Oct 21 10.11pm
there is probably an archery club within a 5 minute drive of wherever you live. you ban 'bows & arrows' and our terrorist friends will move to catapults, hockey sticks, or pushing people off cliffs. will we try to ban cliffs ? Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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there is probably an archery club within a 5 minute drive of wherever you live.

you ban 'bows & arrows' and our terrorist friends will move to catapults, hockey sticks, or pushing people off cliffs.

will we try to ban cliffs ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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jeeagles 14 Oct 21 11.05pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Terrorism seems to have gone from sophisticated bombs & 747's to kitchen knives and ramming cars into people. try to ban those 'weapons'. ideologies (including religion) are far more dangerous than most weapons. Available for access to any kid in a library/bookshop. They can no longer get hold of what they want, and are having to resort to more and more rudimentary techniques. It's getting easier and easier to identify potential nutters and trace them. The terrorists are losing.
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14 Oct 21 11.05pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Terrorism seems to have gone from sophisticated bombs & 747's to kitchen knives and ramming cars into people.

try to ban those 'weapons'.

ideologies (including religion) are far more dangerous than most weapons.

Available for access to any kid in a library/bookshop.

They can no longer get hold of what they want, and are having to resort to more and more rudimentary techniques.

It's getting easier and easier to identify potential nutters and trace them.

The terrorists are losing.

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BlueJay UK 14 Oct 21 11.14pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Where they go, this will follow. Guy didn't trot over from the middle east though, he's a mentally ill local (in relative terms) with an Internet connection. That's all anyone on the path to indoctrination needs. Not that I'm saying that people don't need belief systems to hang their unwellness on because typically they do. Edited by BlueJay (14 Oct 2021 11.16pm)
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UK 14 Oct 21 11.14pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Where they go, this will follow.

Guy didn't trot over from the middle east though, he's a mentally ill local (in relative terms) with an Internet connection.

That's all anyone on the path to indoctrination needs. Not that I'm saying that people don't need belief systems to hang their unwellness on because typically they do.

Edited by BlueJay (14 Oct 2021 11.16pm)

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BlueJay UK 14 Oct 21 11.19pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio there is probably an archery club within a 5 minute drive of wherever you live. you ban 'bows & arrows' and our terrorist friends will move to catapults, hockey sticks, or pushing people off cliffs. will we try to ban cliffs ? I don't disagree really. You can only go so far to make safe any environment and there are no shortage of ways to cause chaos. Then again as others say, he was clearly running short of ideas, so if, say, Americans are using this as a reason why restrictions on carnage level guns are pointless, I'd have to disagree.
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UK 14 Oct 21 11.19pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

there is probably an archery club within a 5 minute drive of wherever you live.

you ban 'bows & arrows' and our terrorist friends will move to catapults, hockey sticks, or pushing people off cliffs.

will we try to ban cliffs ?

I don't disagree really. You can only go so far to make safe any environment and there are no shortage of ways to cause chaos.

Then again as others say, he was clearly running short of ideas, so if, say, Americans are using this as a reason why restrictions on carnage level guns are pointless, I'd have to disagree.

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Stirlingsays 15 Oct 21 7.26am
Originally posted by BlueJay And increasing it's Internet algorithms with the focus being on keeping eyeballs on screens by offering more and more 'full on' examples of whatever your 'cup of tea' is that draw people to unnerving ideologies. The road to profit (whether ads, or donation type models by those with 'strident' views) rarely aligns with anything that actually benefits the viewer as a person. 'Real world' indoctrination is clearly of concern too, but the increasing role that going 'off piste' while on the Internet plays cannot be overstated. What to do about it though, who knows... Edited by BlueJay (14 Oct 2021 8.52pm) There are doctrines within Islam that are never going to accept western culture or group identity. Just like you'll never accept conservative Islam as a way of life. Within that tension attacks are inevitable from a minority and as population size and concentration of demographics mature separation of identity will become more confident in challenging western norms and laws. You and others follow this idea, that there is going to be a merging of interests and cultures and good people will provide examples and everyone else will muddle along and all the rest of it. I follow, what I consider the more realistic reality that integration can only partially work and ultimately the stronger will dominates...which is identity. I think your idea that this is just nutters reading extreme web sites is itself indoctrination. Anti western doctrines are very well established. As I've said, all this is an inevitability as beneath the coke advert, which the mainstream and social liberalism promote from their nice enclaves, the underbelly of identity politics stirs and slowly becomes stronger as demographics slowly change. Significant differences in culture creates division and eventually social division leads to conflict. It's a lesson rinse and repeated throughout history and a lesson ignored out of a well intentioned if erroneous desire for positivity. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2021 7.30am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Oct 21 7.26am

Originally posted by BlueJay

'Real world' indoctrination is clearly of concern too, but the increasing role that going 'off piste' while on the Internet plays cannot be overstated. What to do about it though, who knows...

Edited by BlueJay (14 Oct 2021 8.52pm)

There are doctrines within Islam that are never going to accept western culture or group identity. Just like you'll never accept conservative Islam as a way of life.

Within that tension attacks are inevitable from a minority and as population size and concentration of demographics mature separation of identity will become more confident in challenging western norms and laws.

You and others follow this idea, that there is going to be a merging of interests and cultures and good people will provide examples and everyone else will muddle along and all the rest of it. I follow, what I consider the more realistic reality that integration can only partially work and ultimately the stronger will dominates...which is identity.

I think your idea that this is just nutters reading extreme web sites is itself indoctrination. Anti western doctrines are very well established. As I've said, all this is an inevitability as beneath the coke advert, which the mainstream and social liberalism promote from their nice enclaves, the underbelly of identity politics stirs and slowly becomes stronger as demographics slowly change.

Significant differences in culture creates division and eventually social division leads to conflict. It's a lesson rinse and repeated throughout history and a lesson ignored out of a well intentioned if erroneous desire for positivity.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2021 7.30am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Spiderman Horsham 15 Oct 21 7.54am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio there is probably an archery club within a 5 minute drive of wherever you live. you ban 'bows & arrows' and our terrorist friends will move to catapults, hockey sticks, or pushing people off cliffs. will we try to ban cliffs ? Can we start with Richard?
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Horsham 15 Oct 21 7.54am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

there is probably an archery club within a 5 minute drive of wherever you live.

you ban 'bows & arrows' and our terrorist friends will move to catapults, hockey sticks, or pushing people off cliffs.

will we try to ban cliffs ?

Can we start with Richard?

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Oct 21 7.55am
Originally posted by BlueJay Guy didn't trot over from the middle east though, he's a mentally ill local (in relative terms) with an Internet connection. That's all anyone on the path to indoctrination needs. Not that I'm saying that people don't need belief systems to hang their unwellness on because typically they do. Edited by BlueJay (14 Oct 2021 11.16pm) What, another one?
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Originally posted by BlueJay

Guy didn't trot over from the middle east though, he's a mentally ill local (in relative terms) with an Internet connection.

That's all anyone on the path to indoctrination needs. Not that I'm saying that people don't need belief systems to hang their unwellness on because typically they do.

Edited by BlueJay (14 Oct 2021 11.16pm)

What, another one?

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crystal-purley Purley 15 Oct 21 11.36am
Originally posted by Spiderman Can we start with Richard? Good one :-) Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).
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Originally posted by Spiderman

Can we start with Richard?

Good one :-)

Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Oct 21 12.49pm
Originally posted by Spiderman [Link] Why the f are these weapons available? Having been a frequent visitor to Florida, you can buy these in Walmart. Edited by Spiderman (14 Oct 2021 4.27pm) You can also buy them on ebay(other sites available) from £13.99 for a 54" curved bow & £8.60 for a dozen arrows. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Oct 21 12.49pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

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Why the f are these weapons available? Having been a frequent visitor to Florida, you can buy these in Walmart.

Edited by Spiderman (14 Oct 2021 4.27pm)

You can also buy them on ebay(other sites available) from £13.99 for a 54" curved bow & £8.60 for a dozen arrows.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 15 Oct 21 1.45pm
the media love to bang on and on about Anders Brievik. and seem to have a very selective memory for terror. Does anybody remember the name of the nutter who drove a truck down the Boulevard in Nice and killed, was it, 377 people ? Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 15 Oct 21 1.45pm

the media love to bang on and on about Anders Brievik.

and seem to have a very selective memory for terror.

Does anybody remember the name of the nutter who drove a truck down the Boulevard in Nice and killed, was it, 377 people ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Oct 21 2.18pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio the media love to bang on and on about Anders Brievik. and seem to have a very selective memory for terror. Does anybody remember the name of the nutter who drove a truck down the Boulevard in Nice and killed, was it, 377 people ? This guy was involved in that and the Christmas Market attacks, yet has been given bail in Ireland. Which I couldn’t even find the report on. Even this report is 'look the poor dear is sick' : he lived for years in Ireland, without even changing his name! Without being alarmist, Ireland is a base for them. Very poor Police intelligence, combined with an understanding that we won't face attacks. Don't on your own doorstep etc. Try looking next door. [Link] Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Oct 21 2.18pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the media love to bang on and on about Anders Brievik.

and seem to have a very selective memory for terror.

Does anybody remember the name of the nutter who drove a truck down the Boulevard in Nice and killed, was it, 377 people ?

This guy was involved in that and the Christmas Market attacks, yet has been given bail in Ireland. Which I couldn’t even find the report on. Even this report is 'look the poor dear is sick' : he lived for years in Ireland, without even changing his name! Without being alarmist, Ireland is a base for them. Very poor Police intelligence, combined with an understanding that we won't face attacks. Don't on your own doorstep etc. Try looking next door.

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Red and Blue Army!

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