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sydtheeagle England 01 Sep 21 8.52am | |
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I would add one other thing to the above and yes, I agree, it's a fantastic signing. This: Listening to the fairly lengthy interview with Edouard on Palace TV (I presume), he's clearly not your typical footballer which may go some way to explaining the issues he had towards the end of his time at Celtic. There are no "over the moon/sick as a parrot" answers; he comes across as introspective, thoughtful, articulate, measured, and intelligent in his answers to questions. That's the type of personality that in general, when it's focussed and happy, tends to be very, very successful but when it gets a bee in its bonnet, things tend to go downhill rapidly. What happened at Celtic tends to underline this. Playing-wise, as I said, I think Edouard is an outstanding bit of business. But I do think he'll need to be managed with kid gloves, or at least carefully. I don't think he's your run-of-the-mill, chuck him in and leave him to it, personality. Parish has rightly long stressed bringing the right sort of characters into the dressing room being a component of success. That makes Edouard a really interesting signing. I think we may look back on this as the best bit of striker business we've done since we lifted AJ from Birmingham.
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YT Oxford 01 Sep 21 8.58am | |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
I would add one other thing to the above and yes, I agree, it's a fantastic signing. This: Listening to the fairly lengthy interview with Edouard on Palace TV (I presume), he's clearly not your typical footballer which may go some way to explaining the issues he had towards the end of his time at Celtic. There are no "over the moon/sick as a parrot" answers; he comes across as introspective, thoughtful, articulate, measured, and intelligent in his answers to questions. That's the type of personality that in general, when it's focussed and happy, tends to be very, very successful but when it gets a bee in its bonnet, things tend to go downhill rapidly. What happened at Celtic tends to underline this. Playing-wise, as I said, I think Edouard is an outstanding bit of business. But I do think he'll need to be managed with kid gloves, or at least carefully. I don't think he's your run-of-the-mill, chuck him in and leave him to it, personality. Parish has rightly long stressed bringing the right sort of characters into the dressing room being a component of success. That makes Edouard a really interesting signing. I think we may look back on this as the best bit of striker business we've done since we lifted AJ from Birmingham. Apparently he loves fresh fruit and vegetables too so their lack of availability in Glasgow was a big issue.
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southnorwoodhill 01 Sep 21 9.01am | |
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Unlike Gabbiadini, Edouard doesn't have a truly great Palace forward to follow, I hope he takes this chance by the scruff of the neck and proves the piece of the puzzle we have been lacking.
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Aray South London 01 Sep 21 9.10am | |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
I would add one other thing to the above and yes, I agree, it's a fantastic signing. This: Listening to the fairly lengthy interview with Edouard on Palace TV (I presume), he's clearly not your typical footballer which may go some way to explaining the issues he had towards the end of his time at Celtic. There are no "over the moon/sick as a parrot" answers; he comes across as introspective, thoughtful, articulate, measured, and intelligent in his answers to questions. That's the type of personality that in general, when it's focussed and happy, tends to be very, very successful but when it gets a bee in its bonnet, things tend to go downhill rapidly. What happened at Celtic tends to underline this. Playing-wise, as I said, I think Edouard is an outstanding bit of business. But I do think he'll need to be managed with kid gloves, or at least carefully. I don't think he's your run-of-the-mill, chuck him in and leave him to it, personality. Parish has rightly long stressed bringing the right sort of characters into the dressing room being a component of success. That makes Edouard a really interesting signing. I think we may look back on this as the best bit of striker business we've done since we lifted AJ from Birmingham. As always with you Syd - an excellent post. I read some Celtic fans blaming Lennon for the fall out. I'm hoping that is why he became disenchanted. Also - no matter how big Celtic are, the bottom line is - its a weak league. I have one minor issue with the signing - its only for 4 years. That means we have 2 years before we either should be trying to sell him before his value depreciates, or we need to give him a payrise to get him to extend.
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sydtheeagle England 01 Sep 21 9.11am | |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
I think Ayew will always have a role because, in the end, he's the classic utility player; brilliant at nothing but massively versatile, hard-working, and capable of scoring a goal (at least on occasion). If he's in your starting X1 you've probably got a problem but if his role is at the end of the bench providing depth and fifteen minutes to close out games, you could do a helluva lot worse. Some people need to start judging him for what he is; not expecting him to be what he isn't. Mateta, though, I think is done. He's had opportunities and I think he's simply proved not quite good enough to grab them. He's not hopeless, but he's shown nothing to suggest that he's a starting, goalscoring centre forward at PL level. His impact over the past nine months, Brighton goal aside, has been more or less invisible.
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george1212 london 01 Sep 21 9.13am | |
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Great bit of business. There have been a lot of 'almost' strikers at Palace over recent years. This guy has proven more then most in terms of his record at Celtic and has a ton of potential. Definitely the most promising / talented player we've signed in several years (outside of Eze). As others have said, I don't think we could have got anyone better. Very excited for this one. At very least we are adding to the squad, with some real talent upfront, and at best we have a potential 20 goal a season striker if he gets enough chances. Honestly, I'll take 10 goals from this chap, that should help to keep us up with a few goals from Zaha etc. Great signing CPFC.
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silvertop Portishead 01 Sep 21 9.16am | |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
I would add one other thing to the above and yes, I agree, it's a fantastic signing. This: Listening to the fairly lengthy interview with Edouard on Palace TV (I presume), he's clearly not your typical footballer which may go some way to explaining the issues he had towards the end of his time at Celtic. There are no "over the moon/sick as a parrot" answers; he comes across as introspective, thoughtful, articulate, measured, and intelligent in his answers to questions. That's the type of personality that in general, when it's focussed and happy, tends to be very, very successful but when it gets a bee in its bonnet, things tend to go downhill rapidly. What happened at Celtic tends to underline this. Playing-wise, as I said, I think Edouard is an outstanding bit of business. But I do think he'll need to be managed with kid gloves, or at least carefully. I don't think he's your run-of-the-mill, chuck him in and leave him to it, personality. Parish has rightly long stressed bringing the right sort of characters into the dressing room being a component of success. That makes Edouard a really interesting signing. I think we may look back on this as the best bit of striker business we've done since we lifted AJ from Birmingham. Or he'll need to be managed by a big sh*t house of a bloke, one who takes no nonsense, and given Edouard's origin, is preferably one who is a French footballing icon. Wait...
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Sep 21 9.22am | |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
I think Ayew will always have a role because, in the end, he's the classic utility player; brilliant at nothing but massively versatile, hard-working, and capable of scoring a goal (at least on occasion). If he's in your starting X1 you've probably got a problem but if his role is at the end of the bench providing depth and fifteen minutes to close out games, you could do a helluva lot worse. Some people need to start judging him for what he is; not expecting him to be what he isn't. Mateta, though, I think is done. He's had opportunities and I think he's simply proved not quite good enough to grab them. He's not hopeless, but he's shown nothing to suggest that he's a starting, goalscoring centre forward at PL level. His impact over the past nine months, Brighton goal aside, has been more or less invisible.
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palace99 New Mills 01 Sep 21 9.41am | |
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on paper a great signing and clearly at a price a lot lower than it would have been a year ago. A little concerned with the wages we are paying him and Hughes in this post covid environment but lets face it Palace is hardly the biggest name in the Prem. He is definitely a class above what we have but clearly will need the service and also the right mentality to succeed - you only have to look at Tekkers, a proven international striker to see how things can go wrong.
However, he has pace and an eye for goal, so just seeing a striker in the 6 yard box when a cross comes in would be nice. Fed up seeing Tekkers hiding behind the last defender and Zaha not even making a run into the box when we attack from the opposite side. Lets give the guy time to adjust both the Palace and the Prem. We are a bit of a graveyard for strikers at times.
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MrRobbo Chaldon 01 Sep 21 10.04am | |
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It will be fascinating to see how this develops. The guy has always scored goals, internationally and domestically. But the prem is a huge step up from anything he has done before. He’l also be moving into a team that are likely to be less dominant and create less chances than Celtic or the French national teams would have done. But the guy has a good pedigree, hopefully a point to prove, and if he has ambitions of getting to the very top, the next couple of years at Palace are pivotal. More than goals, I’m looking forward to dynamism. For years now we have become accustomed to a striker who barely moves (and barely scores). The best in the business add something even when they are not scoring. Antonio is a case in point, might have hit a purple patch, but historically the guy has never really scored many. But he puts himself about, makes space for others and generally makes life hard for the defenders. I’m hoping that at minimum, Edouard can do that for us.
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Tickled pink Cornwall 01 Sep 21 10.12am | |
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Originally posted by palace99
on paper a great signing and clearly at a price a lot lower than it would have been a year ago. A little concerned with the wages we are paying him and Hughes in this post covid environment but lets face it Palace is hardly the biggest name in the Prem. He is definitely a class above what we have but clearly will need the service and also the right mentality to succeed - you only have to look at Tekkers, a proven international striker to see how things can go wrong.
However, he has pace and an eye for goal, so just seeing a striker in the 6 yard box when a cross comes in would be nice. Fed up seeing Tekkers hiding behind the last defender and Zaha not even making a run into the box when we attack from the opposite side. Lets give the guy time to adjust both the Palace and the Prem. We are a bit of a graveyard for strikers at times. Think you'll find we have the ball in or around this area more then you realise, the problem being having a player there at the time, hopefully this chap is able to replicate the efforts we had from Murray in the Championship.
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dreamwaverider London 01 Sep 21 10.19am | |
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Originally posted by YT
Apparently he loves fresh fruit and vegetables too so their lack of availability in Glasgow was a big issue. Hahahaha. Love it. In their Glasgow homes, they look in the dustbin for something to eat……..
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