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cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Jul 21 5.24pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

People have championed causes forever - the world is far too much of a mess for it to be any other way.

I donate to charities tackling homelessness in London - it doesn't mean I don't care about homelessness elsewhere, nor that I don't care about other worthy causes.

I buy them a meal deal if someone is outside the shop I'm going in. Also ask what drink and sarny they want as had to change one for cheese once. He was a veggie and didn't eat ham. Straight up and I did. Or a coffee and cake from Greggs.
Does that count as a donation

 

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DanH Flag SW2 15 Jul 21 6.51pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I buy them a meal deal if someone is outside the shop I'm going in. Also ask what drink and sarny they want as had to change one for cheese once. He was a veggie and didn't eat ham. Straight up and I did. Or a coffee and cake from Greggs.
Does that count as a donation

Good work

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Jul 21 7.34pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Good work

Tbh people I'm with sometimes ask why and I tell them 3 or 4 quid won't change my life but it could well be the only thing these people eat all day. I've never been starving hungry luckily and it must be torture.

 

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Bert the Head Flag Epsom 15 Jul 21 10.00pm Send a Private Message to Bert the Head Add Bert the Head as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Then how can they even consider going to play a tournament in Qatar.

It would be massive hypocrisy to only select issues that suit your narrative to be outspoken about.

You are just wound-up because the players have stood solidly against racism and the stand is actually quite popular.

In your world no one can stand up for anything unless they stand up for everything...better people just sit down and shut up and stop making you uncomfortable.

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 15 Jul 21 10.14pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

With respect you are talking testicles.

" In my world" ?

Bert is not the appropriate forename for you to put in front of head IMHO.

I would also disagree that HOL " is an ignorant red neck site " and that " the Roman Empire had slaves but it was not to do with colour" and therefore not the same as the slave trade in the later centuries.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course.

Originally posted by Bert the Head

You are just wound-up because the players have stood solidly against racism and the stand is actually quite popular.

In your world no one can stand up for anything unless they stand up for everything...better people just sit down and shut up and stop making you uncomfortable.

Edited by HKOwen (15 Jul 2021 10.24pm)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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BlueJay Flag UK 15 Jul 21 11.17pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I buy them a meal deal if someone is outside the shop I'm going in. Also ask what drink and sarny they want as had to change one for cheese once. He was a veggie and didn't eat ham. Straight up and I did. Or a coffee and cake from Greggs.
Does that count as a donation

Nice one!

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 15 Jul 21 11.19pm

It shouldn't be taking place there to begin with. A prime case of what happens if you cross the right palms with silver. Still, if it does and we go I'd quite like a fuss being made about various social issues really. Would show the hosts up, and make a mockery of proceedings and how they run their society.

 

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Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 16 Jul 21 6.03am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

I'm sure most Man City fans turn a blind eye to their owners. You get flogged in the UAE for all kinds of sexual offences, including pre-marital sex. Muslim women can't marry non-muslim men (racist, and probably sexist because they say nothing about a man marrying a non-muslim) and apparently crucifixion is on the statute books as a means of capital punishment!

 

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Matov Flag 16 Jul 21 7.31am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Then how can they even consider going to play a tournament in Qatar.

It would be massive hypocrisy to only select issues that suit your narrative to be outspoken about.


They are not really a prism are they? Just a very visible group of people who happen to make a living from kicking a football about.

This entire 'taking the knee' malarkey was a directive from above, seen as a marketing exercise essentially. Good for business. Remember the 'early' days? With the BLM banners put up in the empty stands? Players with BLM on the backs of their shirts?

Its all about keeping the football 'brand' in the spot light. Helps sell football shirts and encourages the sponsors.

This is what I am going to suspect will happen before the England team fly out to Qatar. There will be a big fuss made about how we all now have to come together. The knee bending will go and be replaced with something else. Then we will be told that 'unity' with the poor repressed people of Qatar will be best offered by all getting behind the team. Some noises will be made but they will also put out the narrative about this being the first world cup held in a predominantly Muslim country and that to oppose that is Islamphobic. Hence why players feel 'compelled' to go because otherwise, it sends out the wrong message. And so on and on. By going to Qatar, they are actually making a STAND for the poor and oppressed because of the joy they bring them along with the hope. So expect to see a fuss made about Muslim girls playing football and how the sport is helping break down cultural and racial barriers.


Qater got the world cup because they bunged a lot of people. Everybody knows that. And once again, most people will get behind the hype and the BS. Because football truly is now the opium of the massess. Like a disease really. Infected with it myself because if any of us on the Right truly stuck by our principles then we would have wiped out hands of the professional game a long, long time ago.

For me its more a case of emotional muscle memory now. But if I had my time over, I would have nothing to do with the game. Rotten and corrupt from the very top to almost down to anything much above impromptu league structures that are not even within the offical remit.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 16 Jul 21 10.14am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Crucifixion no, stoning yes

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

I'm sure most Man City fans turn a blind eye to their owners. You get flogged in the UAE for all kinds of sexual offences, including pre-marital sex. Muslim women can't marry non-muslim men (racist, and probably sexist because they say nothing about a man marrying a non-muslim) and apparently crucifixion is on the statute books as a means of capital punishment!

 


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Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 16 Jul 21 10.29am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Crucifixion no, stoning yes

Someone was crucified in Saudi two years ago. It's rare but it's technically 'legal' across Arabia.

Stoning is only when you eat halibut during Ramadan.

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 16 Jul 21 10.30am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Football is political in that England won the World Cup in 1966 with a labour government.

It has often been pointed out and never quite dismissed as jest, Wilson certainly didn't discourage it.

Even worse for the tories, it has turned out like that.


 

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