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Putitout Oxford 10 Jul 21 10.20am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild He looks quicker than our current centre-backs which would be a big positive as it would allow us to play a higher line, plus he is described as a ball-playing defender which if we are to progress towards a more possession-based approach will also be important. When you think Sakho was costing us around £6 million a year just in wages then Euro12 million seems a good deal for a young, full international. I'm not going to pretend I know much about him, but if he is as good as he sounds on paper then this would represent another solid signing and we're still less than two weeks into July! If this is serious and Palace, are serious about injecting youth into all parts of the side , it’s a big yes for me . At his age showing the all round ability he already does. Then if available at the kind of money this suggests, it’s a get in there for me.
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Putitout

Oxford 10 Jul 21 10.20am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

He looks quicker than our current centre-backs which would be a big positive as it would allow us to play a higher line, plus he is described as a ball-playing defender which if we are to progress towards a more possession-based approach will also be important. When you think Sakho was costing us around £6 million a year just in wages then Euro12 million seems a good deal for a young, full international.

I'm not going to pretend I know much about him, but if he is as good as he sounds on paper then this would represent another solid signing and we're still less than two weeks into July!

If this is serious and Palace, are serious about injecting youth into all parts of the side , it’s a big yes for me . At his age showing the all round ability he already does. Then if available at the kind of money this suggests, it’s a get in there for me.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Jul 21 4.44pm
I hear that terms may have been agreed for this lad to come. Not sure whether that means fee agreed or player's terms agreed as well as fee. Time will tell.
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doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Jul 21 4.44pm

I hear that terms may have been agreed for this lad to come. Not sure whether that means fee agreed or player's terms agreed as well as fee.

Time will tell.

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Hudsoneagle 14 Jul 21 6.40pm
I hope so. I think this guy would be a great buy for Palace. Actually most of the young centre backs we have been linked with have been very promising so far. If we could keep Cahill then I’d say Nelsson, Cahill, Tomkins and Kouyate would be adequate cover and in a major emergency we have Kelly. Will we also need left back cover? If so defence would be sorted.
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Hudsoneagle

14 Jul 21 6.40pm

I hope so. I think this guy would be a great buy for Palace. Actually most of the young centre backs we have been linked with have been very promising so far.

If we could keep Cahill then I’d say Nelsson, Cahill, Tomkins and Kouyate would be adequate cover and in a major emergency we have Kelly.

Will we also need left back cover? If so defence would be sorted.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Jul 21 6.50pm
Originally posted by Hudsoneagle I hope so. I think this guy would be a great buy for Palace. Actually most of the young centre backs we have been linked with have been very promising so far. If we could keep Cahill then I’d say Nelsson, Cahill, Tomkins and Kouyate would be adequate cover and in a major emergency we have Kelly. Will we also need left back cover? If so defence would be sorted. Opinions seem divided on this one. I'm in the camp that says no. As I see it, Mitchell was becoming 1st choice as last season progressed (until his injury); Hannam was being prepared as cover and in Schlupp (a LB at Leicester and in his early days with us) and Riedewald (who has covered the position previously), we should have enough without having to spend precious resources on another LB.
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doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Jul 21 6.50pm

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

I hope so. I think this guy would be a great buy for Palace. Actually most of the young centre backs we have been linked with have been very promising so far.

If we could keep Cahill then I’d say Nelsson, Cahill, Tomkins and Kouyate would be adequate cover and in a major emergency we have Kelly.

Will we also need left back cover? If so defence would be sorted.

Opinions seem divided on this one. I'm in the camp that says no. As I see it, Mitchell was becoming 1st choice as last season progressed (until his injury); Hannam was being prepared as cover and in Schlupp (a LB at Leicester and in his early days with us) and Riedewald (who has covered the position previously), we should have enough without having to spend precious resources on another LB.

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Hudsoneagle 14 Jul 21 7.00pm
Originally posted by doombear Opinions seem divided on this one. I'm in the camp that says no. As I see it, Mitchell was becoming 1st choice as last season progressed (until his injury); Hannam was being prepared as cover and in Schlupp (a LB at Leicester and in his early days with us) and Riedewald (who has covered the position previously), we should have enough without having to spend precious resources on another LB. Only trouble with this is that those 3 back ups are all what I’d call emergency back ups. Just because we have 3 of them doesn’t mean we have adequate cover. For me I’d prefer the club to sign someone on a free at the very least that can do a proper job. If Mitchell got injured long term we’d have a problem.
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Hudsoneagle

14 Jul 21 7.00pm

Originally posted by doombear

Only trouble with this is that those 3 back ups are all what I’d call emergency back ups. Just because we have 3 of them doesn’t mean we have adequate cover. For me I’d prefer the club to sign someone on a free at the very least that can do a proper job. If Mitchell got injured long term we’d have a problem.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 14 Jul 21 7.09pm
Originally posted by doombear I hear that terms may have been agreed for this lad to come. Not sure whether that means fee agreed or player's terms agreed as well as fee. Time will tell. Hope so, just the right sort of guy we need “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 14 Jul 21 7.09pm

Originally posted by doombear

I hear that terms may have been agreed for this lad to come. Not sure whether that means fee agreed or player's terms agreed as well as fee.

Time will tell.

Hope so, just the right sort of guy we need

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Omph Liverpool 14 Jul 21 7.16pm
Fair point Two thoughts. We don't need to do all our business in one window and there's something to be said for staging the redevelopment of the squad. By the winter we should be clearer about Ferguson who is - from memory - two footed and cable of playing across the backline. Back up may be thin but is there and seems fairly low priority - could include Ward after all too. Also if we're serious about promoting from within at some stage we need to take the plunge and allow the U23 to have a clear path to the first team. Only seen bits of him but isn't Hannan the closest to being ready? Originally posted by Hudsoneagle Only trouble with this is that those 3 back ups are all what I’d call emergency back ups. Just because we have 3 of them doesn’t mean we have adequate cover. For me I’d prefer the club to sign someone on a free at the very least that can do a proper job. If Mitchell got injured long term we’d have a problem.
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Omph

Liverpool 14 Jul 21 7.16pm

Fair point

Two thoughts. We don't need to do all our business in one window and there's something to be said for staging the redevelopment of the squad. By the winter we should be clearer about Ferguson who is - from memory - two footed and cable of playing across the backline. Back up may be thin but is there and seems fairly low priority - could include Ward after all too.

Also if we're serious about promoting from within at some stage we need to take the plunge and allow the U23 to have a clear path to the first team. Only seen bits of him but isn't Hannan the closest to being ready?

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

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Hudsoneagle 15 Jul 21 12.37am
Originally posted by Omph Fair point Two thoughts. We don't need to do all our business in one window and there's something to be said for staging the redevelopment of the squad. By the winter we should be clearer about Ferguson who is - from memory - two footed and cable of playing across the backline. Back up may be thin but is there and seems fairly low priority - could include Ward after all too. Also if we're serious about promoting from within at some stage we need to take the plunge and allow the U23 to have a clear path to the first team. Only seen bits of him but isn't Hannan the closest to being ready? Agreed. I don’t think left back is a priority so much. But it needs looking at. Based on the players that have left I would say centre back is the main priority followed by Olise who has perhaps replaced Townsend and I think we’ve needed fitter centre mids for a long long time so I’d like to see a decent centre mid. Last season we covered the least amount of ground in the league. That’s not because we didn’t have fit players…it was the style of football. We played 80% of our games in our own half. Let’s hope that changes…and if it does we could do with a quality box to box midfielder.
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Hudsoneagle

15 Jul 21 12.37am

Originally posted by Omph

Fair point

Agreed. I don’t think left back is a priority so much. But it needs looking at. Based on the players that have left I would say centre back is the main priority followed by Olise who has perhaps replaced Townsend and I think we’ve needed fitter centre mids for a long long time so I’d like to see a decent centre mid.

Last season we covered the least amount of ground in the league. That’s not because we didn’t have fit players…it was the style of football. We played 80% of our games in our own half. Let’s hope that changes…and if it does we could do with a quality box to box midfielder.

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sprites Auckland 15 Jul 21 6.10am
Originally posted by Hudsoneagle Only trouble with this is that those 3 back ups are all what I’d call emergency back ups. Just because we have 3 of them doesn’t mean we have adequate cover. For me I’d prefer the club to sign someone on a free at the very least that can do a proper job. If Mitchell got injured long term we’d have a problem. Also, let’s not forget the fact that Mitchell’s been far from convincing. He’s certainly far from the finished product. Not sure there’s a premier league left back there. Personally I think he needs another season of development, playing, say, 10-15 games. Instead of being thrown in the deep end and relied upon for 38 odd games.
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sprites

Auckland 15 Jul 21 6.10am

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

Also, let’s not forget the fact that Mitchell’s been far from convincing. He’s certainly far from the finished product. Not sure there’s a premier league left back there.

Personally I think he needs another season of development, playing, say, 10-15 games. Instead of being thrown in the deep end and relied upon for 38 odd games.

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sprites Auckland 15 Jul 21 6.12am
Originally posted by Hudsoneagle I hope so. I think this guy would be a great buy for Palace. Actually most of the young centre backs we have been linked with have been very promising so far. If we could keep Cahill then I’d say Nelsson, Cahill, Tomkins and Kouyate would be adequate cover and in a major emergency we have Kelly. Will we also need left back cover? If so defence would be sorted. I’m not sure what Kelly’s done wrong to only be considered an emergency back up. Never let us down there and by all accounts is a very solid Centre half.
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sprites

Auckland 15 Jul 21 6.12am

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

I hope so. I think this guy would be a great buy for Palace. Actually most of the young centre backs we have been linked with have been very promising so far.

If we could keep Cahill then I’d say Nelsson, Cahill, Tomkins and Kouyate would be adequate cover and in a major emergency we have Kelly.

Will we also need left back cover? If so defence would be sorted.

I’m not sure what Kelly’s done wrong to only be considered an emergency back up. Never let us down there and by all accounts is a very solid Centre half.

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taylors lovechild 15 Jul 21 8.37am
Originally posted by sprites Also, let’s not forget the fact that Mitchell’s been far from convincing. He’s certainly far from the finished product. Not sure there’s a premier league left back there. Personally I think he needs another season of development, playing, say, 10-15 games. Instead of being thrown in the deep end and relied upon for 38 odd games. It may be a big shout given he hasn't made his debut, but I actually think Hannam might oust Mitchell. The lad exudes confidence, is aggressive in the tackle and gets forward with pace. I hope we get to see the two of them fighting for the shirt next season. Personally I'd say if our budget is limited then there are more important areas of the pitch to focus on than the full-back positions.
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Originally posted by sprites

Also, let’s not forget the fact that Mitchell’s been far from convincing. He’s certainly far from the finished product. Not sure there’s a premier league left back there.

Personally I think he needs another season of development, playing, say, 10-15 games. Instead of being thrown in the deep end and relied upon for 38 odd games.

It may be a big shout given he hasn't made his debut, but I actually think Hannam might oust Mitchell. The lad exudes confidence, is aggressive in the tackle and gets forward with pace. I hope we get to see the two of them fighting for the shirt next season. Personally I'd say if our budget is limited then there are more important areas of the pitch to focus on than the full-back positions.

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Hudsoneagle 15 Jul 21 9.31am
Originally posted by sprites I’m not sure what Kelly’s done wrong to only be considered an emergency back up. Never let us down there and by all accounts is a very solid Centre half. His ability on the ball is below the standards in the championship. He had one decent game vs Arsenal but has managed to lose us games single handedly. Perhaps one of the only players that makes me cringe when he’s selected. Ask yourself this…why does he not get a game? Why have we seen unfit players selected ahead of him? Why did a midfielder start ahead of him? He’s never been fancied by the management. He’s not even close to being good enough at this level especially with all the high press tactics around today.
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Hudsoneagle

15 Jul 21 9.31am

Originally posted by sprites

I’m not sure what Kelly’s done wrong to only be considered an emergency back up. Never let us down there and by all accounts is a very solid Centre half.

His ability on the ball is below the standards in the championship. He had one decent game vs Arsenal but has managed to lose us games single handedly. Perhaps one of the only players that makes me cringe when he’s selected.

Ask yourself this…why does he not get a game? Why have we seen unfit players selected ahead of him? Why did a midfielder start ahead of him? He’s never been fancied by the management. He’s not even close to being good enough at this level especially with all the high press tactics around today.

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