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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 13 Dec 20 11.37am
Originally posted by Badger11 Much Ado About Nothing. I don't think we're getting a deal yet? According to the media Merkel is now emerging as chief villein. As for fishing make it clear to the EU no deal no fish. As for the Navy tell them to warn off any trawlers in our waters and make it clear if they see that boat again it will be impounded in lieu of a significant fine hopefully that will be enough. There is no need to escalate this into some kind of phony war even without a deal there are still areas where we and the EU need to co-operate on individual issues. Tell the EU when they are ready to agree our red lines we can re-start talks until then focus on keeping the goods flowing and ramp up trade talks with other countries. Voice of reason - no place for that here ! Edited by Badger11 (13 Dec 2020 8.16am)
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Banstead Surrey 13 Dec 20 11.37am

Originally posted by Badger11

Much Ado About Nothing. I don't think we're getting a deal yet? According to the media Merkel is now emerging as chief villein.

As for fishing make it clear to the EU no deal no fish. As for the Navy tell them to warn off any trawlers in our waters and make it clear if they see that boat again it will be impounded in lieu of a significant fine hopefully that will be enough.

There is no need to escalate this into some kind of phony war even without a deal there are still areas where we and the EU need to co-operate on individual issues.

Tell the EU when they are ready to agree our red lines we can re-start talks until then focus on keeping the goods flowing and ramp up trade talks with other countries.

Voice of reason - no place for that here !

Edited by Badger11 (13 Dec 2020 8.16am)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Dec 20 11.47am
Originally posted by Badger11 Much Ado About Nothing. I don't think we're getting a deal yet? According to the media Merkel is now emerging as chief villein. As for fishing make it clear to the EU no deal no fish. As for the Navy tell them to warn off any trawlers in our waters and make it clear if they see that boat again it will be impounded in lieu of a significant fine hopefully that will be enough. There is no need to escalate this into some kind of phony war even without a deal there are still areas where we and the EU need to co-operate on individual issues. Tell the EU when they are ready to agree our red lines we can re-start talks until then focus on keeping the goods flowing and ramp up trade talks with other countries. Edited by Badger11 (13 Dec 2020 8.16am) Merkel has to look tough to appease hard line elements in her coalition and the French. However, particularly German car business, already reeling from scandals and fines, has been very vociferous about needing access to the UK market. Is she going to shaft them for some loud French fisherman? Defies logic, and one would think that Mammy is logical. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Dec 20 11.47am

Originally posted by Badger11

Much Ado About Nothing. I don't think we're getting a deal yet? According to the media Merkel is now emerging as chief villein.

There is no need to escalate this into some kind of phony war even without a deal there are still areas where we and the EU need to co-operate on individual issues.

Tell the EU when they are ready to agree our red lines we can re-start talks until then focus on keeping the goods flowing and ramp up trade talks with other countries.

Edited by Badger11 (13 Dec 2020 8.16am)

Merkel has to look tough to appease hard line elements in her coalition and the French. However, particularly German car business, already reeling from scandals and fines, has been very vociferous about needing access to the UK market. Is she going to shaft them for some loud French fisherman? Defies logic, and one would think that Mammy is logical.

Red and Blue Army!

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Matov 13 Dec 20 1.04pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Defies logic, and one would think that Mammy is logical. Depends. And why I feel the British have been incredibly naive in many ways around these talks. In terms of pounds, shillings and pence, then a Canada stye deal should have been the easiest one possible. After all who wants to disrupt commerce? But, if Brexit was solely about money, I suspect Remain would have won the day, hence all that project fear guff. All conventional political thinking tells you that it was the right approach. However Brexit always was about identity. Why Remainers not only got it so so wrong before 2016 but why Remoaners have been such utter c***s ever since. They actually (and I confess I never quite understood it which is a fault on my part) bought into this notion of European citizenship. Became an important part of how they self-identify and why they feel this so deeply. The EU is about a wider project than just a common market. Everything from the Euro to Shengan shows that. And one of the primary reasons I voted to leave. But those at the top of the EU know they cannot afford to let Britain go with a good deal. They HAVE to make it as hard as possible by way of a warning to everybody else. I get that, hence why I never understood our negotiating stance from the get go. From day 1 it should have been that no-deal was the overwhelming likelihood and worked on it from that. If a deal then emerged over the course of the talks then fine but as it was, then accepting that No-Deal was by far the most likely outcome. From what I have read, up until the Thursday of two weeks ago they were moving towards a deal. And then the EU decided to play hard-ball. Clearly a tactic they had agreed in advanced, hoping to hoodwink the UK into having to accept it. It's (hopefully) failed because any deal now is a 100% betrayal. But I blame HMG for being so naive from the start. The EU needed treating as a hostile entity as of June 24th 2016. The EU is not our friend. We need to remember that. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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13 Dec 20 1.04pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Defies logic, and one would think that Mammy is logical.

Depends. And why I feel the British have been incredibly naive in many ways around these talks.

In terms of pounds, shillings and pence, then a Canada stye deal should have been the easiest one possible. After all who wants to disrupt commerce?

But, if Brexit was solely about money, I suspect Remain would have won the day, hence all that project fear guff. All conventional political thinking tells you that it was the right approach.

However Brexit always was about identity. Why Remainers not only got it so so wrong before 2016 but why Remoaners have been such utter c***s ever since. They actually (and I confess I never quite understood it which is a fault on my part) bought into this notion of European citizenship. Became an important part of how they self-identify and why they feel this so deeply.

The EU is about a wider project than just a common market. Everything from the Euro to Shengan shows that. And one of the primary reasons I voted to leave.

But those at the top of the EU know they cannot afford to let Britain go with a good deal. They HAVE to make it as hard as possible by way of a warning to everybody else. I get that, hence why I never understood our negotiating stance from the get go.

From day 1 it should have been that no-deal was the overwhelming likelihood and worked on it from that. If a deal then emerged over the course of the talks then fine but as it was, then accepting that No-Deal was by far the most likely outcome.

From what I have read, up until the Thursday of two weeks ago they were moving towards a deal. And then the EU decided to play hard-ball. Clearly a tactic they had agreed in advanced, hoping to hoodwink the UK into having to accept it.

It's (hopefully) failed because any deal now is a 100% betrayal. But I blame HMG for being so naive from the start. The EU needed treating as a hostile entity as of June 24th 2016.

The EU is not our friend. We need to remember that.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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steeleye20 Croydon 13 Dec 20 1.14pm
'shoot those UK thieves'. The rules of the single market cannot be anything but crystal clear to perfidious albion, we actually made them. Johnson is just a spiv trying setting up a pound shop and under-cutting the traders on the estate. If the situation here was reversed, the UK would be screaming blue murder.
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Croydon 13 Dec 20 1.14pm

'shoot those UK thieves'.

The rules of the single market cannot be anything but crystal clear to perfidious albion, we actually made them.

Johnson is just a spiv trying setting up a pound shop and under-cutting the traders on the estate.

If the situation here was reversed, the UK would be screaming blue murder.

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chris123 hove actually 13 Dec 20 1.26pm
Originally posted by Fatherken I knew this would happen The right wing are going that far they are meeting the left wing coming way Déjà EU?
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hove actually 13 Dec 20 1.26pm

Originally posted by Fatherken

I knew this would happen
The right wing are going that far they are meeting the left wing coming way

Déjà EU?

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new_in_Wait Lewisham 13 Dec 20 3.07pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Title provocative, and intended to be so. [Link] "UK-EU trade talks are continuing ahead of a mutual deadline on Sunday. The MoD said it was prepared for a "range of scenarios" after 31 December. Navy vessels are already deployed to enforce UK and European fishing laws for large parts of the year." (BBC website) and shoot up those dingys from Calais whilst you're there. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (12 Dec 2020 10.05pm) Title provocative na, just idiotic. as for shooting up 'dingys', are you hoping Katie Hopkins is gonna give you a handjob on your St. George's flag in the van?
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new_in_Wait

Lewisham 13 Dec 20 3.07pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Title provocative, and intended to be so.
[Link]

"UK-EU trade talks are continuing ahead of a mutual deadline on Sunday.

The MoD said it was prepared for a "range of scenarios" after 31 December.

Navy vessels are already deployed to enforce UK and European fishing laws for large parts of the year." (BBC website)

and shoot up those dingys from Calais whilst you're there.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (12 Dec 2020 10.05pm)

Title provocative

na, just idiotic. as for shooting up 'dingys', are you hoping Katie Hopkins is gonna give you a handjob on your St. George's flag in the van?

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Dec 20 3.10pm
Originally posted by new_in_Wait Title provocative na, just idiotic. as for shooting up 'dingys', are you hoping Katie Hopkins is gonna give you a handjob on your St. George's flag in the van? She only offers that to people who voted leave. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Dec 20 3.10pm

Originally posted by new_in_Wait

Title provocative

na, just idiotic. as for shooting up 'dingys', are you hoping Katie Hopkins is gonna give you a handjob on your St. George's flag in the van?

She only offers that to people who voted leave.

Red and Blue Army!

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new_in_Wait Lewisham 13 Dec 20 3.19pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC She only offers that to people who voted leave. I thought they all suffered from Erectile Dysfunction.
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new_in_Wait

Lewisham 13 Dec 20 3.19pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

She only offers that to people who voted leave.

I thought they all suffered from Erectile Dysfunction.

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Mapletree Croydon 13 Dec 20 3.37pm
Originally posted by Badger11 According to the media Merkel is now emerging as chief villein. Edited by Badger11 (13 Dec 2020 8.16am) Wow. So she really does have an interest in agriculture then. From whom does she lease her land?
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Mapletree

Croydon 13 Dec 20 3.37pm

Originally posted by Badger11

According to the media Merkel is now emerging as chief villein.

Edited by Badger11 (13 Dec 2020 8.16am)

Wow. So she really does have an interest in agriculture then. From whom does she lease her land?

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Badger11 Beckenham 13 Dec 20 4.24pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Wow. So she really does have an interest in agriculture then. From whom does she lease her land? Lord Macron, I thought that looked wrong. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 13 Dec 20 4.24pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Wow. So she really does have an interest in agriculture then. From whom does she lease her land?

Lord Macron, I thought that looked wrong.

One more point

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PalazioVecchio south pole 13 Dec 20 7.09pm
Originally posted by new_in_Wait are you hoping Katie Hopkins is gonna give you a handjob on your St. George's flag in the van? i'd rather that than a Dominatrix Angela Merkel dressed as a Berlin Wall guard. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 13 Dec 20 7.09pm

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Originally posted by new_in_Wait

are you hoping Katie Hopkins is gonna give you a handjob on your St. George's flag in the van?

i'd rather that than a Dominatrix Angela Merkel dressed as a Berlin Wall guard.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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orpingtoneagle Orpington 13 Dec 20 7.15pm
Originally posted by DanH Blockade EU fish too. Our waters our fish only too. You will need to explain the rules to the fish as they tend to swim about with their friends and might inadvertently stray outside UK waters. Will we Also be bringing back the compulsory eating of fish on Friday as many people especially kids don't eat fish at all.
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Originally posted by DanH

Blockade EU fish too. Our waters our fish only too.

You will need to explain the rules to the fish as they tend to swim about with their friends and might inadvertently stray outside UK waters.

Will we Also be bringing back the compulsory eating of fish on Friday as many people especially kids don't eat fish at all.

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