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Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 19 Nov 20 7.39pm | |
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The first electric cars were around in the 1800s so we have not come far but we will. Lots being done on renewable energy but still is a way off, though nuclear is the best option in the short term though the waste not very environmently friendly. The mining for the materials needed for the batteries is very carbon intense and the disposal is difficult. The range is a problem I can drive 200 miles a day visiting multiple remote sites constantly stopping and starting. What happens when you are stuck in a traffic jam on a motorway for a few hours in the winter, hundreds of stranded electric cars. Saying all that once the oil companies get behind the new tech (which I suspect they already are) things will move fast. Like it or not its the way forward for now. Hopefully hydrogen will come on leaps and bounds
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Mapletree Croydon 19 Nov 20 10.28pm | |
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We know a Professor of sustainable energy at Imperial. His lab is like something out of a 1950s boys comic. Well Heath Robinson. He reckons we are getting there with Hydrogen. You can surround your house with some kind of plant (lichen maybe?) that produces hydrogen apparently. Edited by Mapletree (19 Nov 2020 10.29pm)
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Midlands Eagle 20 Nov 20 5.57am | |
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Originally posted by Harpo
Who would have thought in 1920, that cars in the next century would be capable of being started without a crank handle, driven for thousands of miles without having to open the bonnet, hundreds of miles without stopping? Or that millions of people could read your comments on a network of interlinked computers that everyone had access to
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cryrst The garden of England 20 Nov 20 6.19am | |
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I dont beleive the grid atm will take the load required for charging all these cars.
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dorking 20 Nov 20 7.00am | |
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If you're like me and only buy your car second hand anyway (and about 5 years old), then you're fine until circa 2035 at least, and that second hand petrol car will last you until 2040 anyway By then the infrastructure should be sufficient to make the switch
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jeeagles 20 Nov 20 8.50am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Amen to that. The sooner we are energy independent the sooner we can tell certain countries to take a hike. The government have got the green energy narrative wrong. We were the richest nation in the world when we could produce our own fuel, and we have an abundance of wind and tidal energy that won't run out. Germany and Japan have an advantage on car manufacturing at the moment. The first country to go fully electric is likely to get an advantage in manufacturing electric cars.
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chris123 hove actually 20 Nov 20 9.21am | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The government have got the green energy narrative wrong. We were the richest nation in the world when we could produce our own fuel, and we have an abundance of wind and tidal energy that won't run out. Germany and Japan have an advantage on car manufacturing at the moment. The first country to go fully electric is likely to get an advantage in manufacturing electric cars. Both countries are heavily dependent on imported energy.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 20 Nov 20 9.21am | |
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electric cars ?
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Badger11 Beckenham 20 Nov 20 10.17am | |
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When Kennedy said they would put a man on the moon within 10 years this was a goal there was no plan at that stage, it was more of a can do spirit. I think the same applies to electric cars and the rest of the green plan that Boris put out. Manufacturers will put all sorts of obstacles in its way because it means they have to invest in developing new technology however now that 2030 is a hard date they will knuckle down and have to address some of the issues raised on here. It's never going to be Nirvana but Boris is right we need a vision especially with the huge job losses, people will soon complain that the government has no plan for creating new types of jobs, well this is it. Maybe it won't all happen by 2030 but even if that date slips by a couple of years the main things is that it happens. As for the new jobs well one example is that people will want a charging point in their home garage or forecourt or work place let along public car parks. this will need electricians so a new industry much like the Sky dish fitters. Better to have a vision than just wring your hands and say it can't be done. My concern is that red tape will just slow it all down. Get on with it and start creating these new jobs.
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steeleye20 Croydon 20 Nov 20 10.25am | |
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Elsewhere, Johnson’s plan leaves much to be desired – especially when it comes to funding. Of the £12bn announced, just £4bn is new government money – meaning two-thirds of it is simply recycled from previous promises, or being assumed to be delivered by the private sector. To put this into context, France has already pledged £27bn for environmental stimulus measures and Germany has committed £36bn. When you look more closely at these government packages they are just froth, thee is only 4 billions of new money here, a pittance considering the scale of the task.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Nov 20 2.26pm | |
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Red and Blue Army! |
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Harpo Oxfordshire 20 Nov 20 3.15pm | |
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There's only one thing that is certain, and that personal mobility is going to be severely curtailed in very few generations. War, pestilence, plague, poverty are all going to become regular subjects for the news networks. Lockdown? You ain't seen nothin' yet.
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