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DanH SW2 16 Apr 20 3.55pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC It'll be no more than 50-100 a day for very hard work. And one for Danh is yes, I did used to do it. Nothing better than a hard summer's work to make you tough. Not like all the pansies these days, eh Dan. I did it too for a month or so one summer! Definitely before I was 16 and definitely for about £10 a day the scorching heat. My best mate's neighbour owned a fruit farm. The eastern European workers would work at about 5 times the speed of us. Was exhausting. If we want British people to do these jobs it means paying wages that mean British people would take the jobs, which means that the price of your food goes up.
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SW2 16 Apr 20 3.55pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

It'll be no more than 50-100 a day for very hard work. And one for Danh is yes, I did used to do it. Nothing better than a hard summer's work to make you tough. Not like all the pansies these days, eh Dan.

I did it too for a month or so one summer! Definitely before I was 16 and definitely for about £10 a day the scorching heat. My best mate's neighbour owned a fruit farm. The eastern European workers would work at about 5 times the speed of us. Was exhausting.

If we want British people to do these jobs it means paying wages that mean British people would take the jobs, which means that the price of your food goes up.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Apr 20 4.14pm
Originally posted by DanH I did it too for a month or so one summer! Definitely before I was 16 and definitely for about £10 a day the scorching heat. My best mate's neighbour owned a fruit farm. The eastern European workers would work at about 5 times the speed of us. Was exhausting. If we want British people to do these jobs it means paying wages that mean British people would take the jobs, which means that the price of your food goes up. Fair enough. I certainly know the experience. However, it wouldn't be a big deal for me to pay slightly more to know that able-bodied people on the dole were now working. Groceries,and plenty of food products, are artificially cheap and have been for some time. I would pay more for local and organic stuff too. I fail to see why imported workers are necessary in any industry whilst there are millions unemployed. As for solutions, I would go as far as to have vans outside the joke shop on signing day bringing people to work for the day. No doubt, I would be labelled a Nazi. Obviously, that isn't the only solution, as some people require training. But it would be satisfying - and quite humorous to see the usual suspects' reactions. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Apr 20 4.14pm

Originally posted by DanH

If we want British people to do these jobs it means paying wages that mean British people would take the jobs, which means that the price of your food goes up.

Fair enough. I certainly know the experience. However, it wouldn't be a big deal for me to pay slightly more to know that able-bodied people on the dole were now working. Groceries,and plenty of food products, are artificially cheap and have been for some time. I would pay more for local and organic stuff too.
I fail to see why imported workers are necessary in any industry whilst there are millions unemployed. As for solutions, I would go as far as to have vans outside the joke shop on signing day bringing people to work for the day. No doubt, I would be labelled a Nazi. Obviously, that isn't the only solution, as some people require training. But it would be satisfying - and quite humorous to see the usual suspects' reactions.

Red and Blue Army!

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eritheagle Erith 16 Apr 20 4.16pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Loads of people in manual jobs, especially food and supermarkets aren’t practicing social distancing. Myself and my fellow workers try to in the shop I work in, but the groups of people that come in don't seem to realize there's a lockdown on when they go shopping for all their "essential" items like paint, wallpaper paste, compost etc!
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Erith 16 Apr 20 4.16pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Loads of people in manual jobs, especially food and supermarkets aren’t practicing social distancing.

Myself and my fellow workers try to in the shop I work in, but the groups of people that come in don't seem to realize there's a lockdown on when they go shopping for all their "essential" items like paint, wallpaper paste, compost etc!

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Apr 20 7.06am
Originally posted by DanH I did it too for a month or so one summer! Definitely before I was 16 and definitely for about £10 a day the scorching heat. My best mate's neighbour owned a fruit farm. The eastern European workers would work at about 5 times the speed of us. Was exhausting. If we want British people to do these jobs it means paying wages that mean British people would take the jobs, which means that the price of your food goes up. The Volag scheme, which imports farm labourers for the summer season, has been around for many years. Having dealt with hundreds and seen their contracts ( certainly a few years ago), it is not far short of slave labour, in some cases. Poor weekly wage and then board and lodging taken out of that (often living in caravans in site)
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Horsham 17 Apr 20 7.06am

Originally posted by DanH

If we want British people to do these jobs it means paying wages that mean British people would take the jobs, which means that the price of your food goes up.

The Volag scheme, which imports farm labourers for the summer season, has been around for many years. Having dealt with hundreds and seen their contracts ( certainly a few years ago), it is not far short of slave labour, in some cases. Poor weekly wage and then board and lodging taken out of that (often living in caravans in site)

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Apr 20 8.22am
Originally posted by sitdownstandup Here's the story. You'd think they'd all be tested and practise social distancing too. [Link] Apparently they have all been tested so that not an issue. Listening to the news this morning, they claim over 33,000 Brits applied, 16% of those were interviewed ( some withdrew before interview stage) and only under 200 have been employed. So there was interest from Brits but why not employed us open to debate. Maybe having seen terms of employment they decided it was not for them (especially if they were like the contracts I saw a few years ago) or the Romanians are prepared to accept poorer working conditions I do not know. My wife who lived in rural Essex picked fruit in her youth and she assured me the training needs to be minimal so locals could be trained very quickly. Personally I would like to see the t&cs offered. This is not a criticism of the Romanians but a little dig at the media outlets that are suggesting Brits won’t do it
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Horsham 17 Apr 20 8.22am

Originally posted by sitdownstandup

Here's the story. You'd think they'd all be tested and practise social distancing too.

[Link]

Apparently they have all been tested so that not an issue. Listening to the news this morning, they claim over 33,000 Brits applied, 16% of those were interviewed ( some withdrew before interview stage) and only under 200 have been employed. So there was interest from Brits but why not employed us open to debate. Maybe having seen terms of employment they decided it was not for them (especially if they were like the contracts I saw a few years ago) or the Romanians are prepared to accept poorer working conditions I do not know. My wife who lived in rural Essex picked fruit in her youth and she assured me the training needs to be minimal so locals could be trained very quickly. Personally I would like to see the t&cs offered. This is not a criticism of the Romanians but a little dig at the media outlets that are suggesting Brits won’t do it

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Mapletree Croydon 17 Apr 20 8.22am
Originally posted by Spiderman The Volag scheme, which imports farm labourers for the summer season, has been around for many years. Having dealt with hundreds and seen their contracts ( certainly a few years ago), it is not far short of slave labour, in some cases. Poor weekly wage and then board and lodging taken out of that (often living in caravans in site) That is what my daughter did last summer. Had a caravan to herself in a corner of a field as the only girl. But as a Brit she got to drive the tractor rather than do the picking.
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Mapletree

Croydon 17 Apr 20 8.22am

Originally posted by Spiderman

That is what my daughter did last summer. Had a caravan to herself in a corner of a field as the only girl. But as a Brit she got to drive the tractor rather than do the picking.

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Mapletree Croydon 17 Apr 20 8.24am
Originally posted by Spiderman Apparently they have all been tested so that not an issue. Listening to the news this morning, they claim over 33,000 Brits applied, 16% of those were interviewed ( some withdrew before interview stage) and only under 200 have been employed. So there was interest from Brits but why not employed us open to debate. Maybe having seen terms of employment they decided it was not for them (especially if they were like the contracts I saw a few years ago) or the Romanians are prepared to accept poorer working conditions I do not know. My wife who lived in rural Essex picked fruit in her youth and she assured me the training needs to be minimal so locals could be trained very quickly. Personally I would like to see the t&cs offered. This is not a criticism of the Romanians but a little dig at the media outlets that are suggesting Brits won’t do it Jobs not suited to those with webbed fingers?
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Mapletree

Croydon 17 Apr 20 8.24am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Jobs not suited to those with webbed fingers?

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 17 Apr 20 8.34am
why cant we make people who are furloughed to this work? ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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why cant we make people who are furloughed to this work?

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Apr 20 8.52am
Originally posted by Mapletree That is what my daughter did last summer. Had a caravan to herself in a corner of a field as the only girl. But as a Brit she got to drive the tractor rather than do the picking. Driving a tractor every kids dream! she was lucky to get her own caravan, hope she enjoyed the experience
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Horsham 17 Apr 20 8.52am

Originally posted by Mapletree

That is what my daughter did last summer. Had a caravan to herself in a corner of a field as the only girl. But as a Brit she got to drive the tractor rather than do the picking.

Driving a tractor every kids dream! she was lucky to get her own caravan, hope she enjoyed the experience

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Apr 20 8.54am
Originally posted by Mapletree Jobs not suited to those with webbed fingers? Possibly although if we have a wet summer, may be an advantage
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Horsham 17 Apr 20 8.54am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Jobs not suited to those with webbed fingers?

Possibly although if we have a wet summer, may be an advantage

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Mapletree Croydon 17 Apr 20 9.04am
Originally posted by Spiderman Driving a tractor every kids dream! she was lucky to get her own caravan, hope she enjoyed the experience Not really. Very early starts and pretty boring. Despite being let loose with a flamethrower.
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Mapletree

Croydon 17 Apr 20 9.04am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Driving a tractor every kids dream! she was lucky to get her own caravan, hope she enjoyed the experience

Not really. Very early starts and pretty boring. Despite being let loose with a flamethrower.

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