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Rudi Hedman Caterham 31 Mar 20 7.35pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio bye bye - ryanair & easyjet informality - the Euro currency ( and good riddance ) - the EU ...ditto - growth in house prices everywhere - touchy feely greetings Hello - hand sanitizers & face masks everywhere - paranoia at Borders about viruses - health certificates and bureaucracy - regulation of the BioTech industry - backup contingency of healthcare for the next virus - Martial Law...the precedent has now been set. What’s not to like? Seriously, it might give a few heads a wobble. Overdue too. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 31 Mar 20 7.35pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

bye bye
- ryanair & easyjet informality
- the Euro currency ( and good riddance )
- the EU ...ditto
- growth in house prices everywhere
- touchy feely greetings

Hello
- hand sanitizers & face masks everywhere
- paranoia at Borders about viruses
- health certificates and bureaucracy
- regulation of the BioTech industry
- backup contingency of healthcare for the next virus
- Martial Law...the precedent has now been set.

What’s not to like?

Seriously, it might give a few heads a wobble. Overdue too.

COYP

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HKOwen Hong Kong 01 Apr 20 1.12am
Quite possible the virus will advance the break up of the European Project and single currency. UK may well find the Channel is of great importance in many ways. IMHO EU countries without proper borders and huge numbers of people allowed to enter on political grounds will have huge issues. It is important we are able to effectively identify refugees and separate them from economic migrants. The days of young men travelling around in groups and claiming to be 15 etc etc has to be stopped. Refugees must be protected Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 01 Apr 20 1.12am

Quite possible the virus will advance the break up of the European Project and single currency.

UK may well find the Channel is of great importance in many ways.

IMHO EU countries without proper borders and huge numbers of people allowed to enter on political grounds will have huge issues.

It is important we are able to effectively identify refugees and separate them from economic migrants.

The days of young men travelling around in groups and claiming to be 15 etc etc has to be stopped.

Refugees must be protected

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Apr 20 9.56am
Originally posted by HKOwen Quite possible the virus will advance the break up of the European Project and single currency. UK may well find the Channel is of great importance in many ways. IMHO EU countries without proper borders and huge numbers of people allowed to enter on political grounds will have huge issues. It is important we are able to effectively identify refugees and separate them from economic migrants. The days of young men travelling around in groups and claiming to be 15 etc etc has to be stopped. Refugees must be protected To take refuge is to seek the nearest possible place of safety. They are all economic migrants, not refugees. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Apr 20 9.56am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Quite possible the virus will advance the break up of the European Project and single currency.

UK may well find the Channel is of great importance in many ways.

IMHO EU countries without proper borders and huge numbers of people allowed to enter on political grounds will have huge issues.

It is important we are able to effectively identify refugees and separate them from economic migrants.

The days of young men travelling around in groups and claiming to be 15 etc etc has to be stopped.

Refugees must be protected

To take refuge is to seek the nearest possible place of safety.

They are all economic migrants, not refugees.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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johnno42000 01 Apr 20 12.18pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 To take refuge is to seek the nearest possible place of safety. They are all economic migrants, not refugees. Is this the definition from a dictionary or a personal definition? 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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johnno42000

01 Apr 20 12.18pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

To take refuge is to seek the nearest possible place of safety.

They are all economic migrants, not refugees.

Is this the definition from a dictionary or a personal definition?

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 01 Apr 20 1.14pm
Originally posted by Matov Saw this article in the Guardian... [Link] Predicting the demise of both the single currency project and the EU itself has long been a subject of debate and to be fair to both, much like the predictions of the imminent collapse of Glaciers and so on by the Green loons, many have proven incorrect. But post this current crisis? Not sure. If I had to go out on a limb and make predictions I suspect that it will be the success, or an almost 50-50 vote, for Le Pen in 2022 in France that finally collapses it all. France itself is heading for even more major civil strife and throw in an Italy in which Salvini has to be odds on favourite to take full control and the internal EU pressures will bring about a messy implosion. Simply put this crisis is going to break Italy and Greece due to the collapse of this year's tourist business and with a possibility of dragging on into 2021. Spain could be in huge trouble and all nations without the ability to control their own currency by way of trying to alleviate the worst of it. This virus has the potential to be as history-changing as both World War 1 & 2. Perhaps the break-up of the EU. Lots of countries which have a large tourist industry will struggle. And who can bale them out ? Although the EU may break up, I can see ties (better co-coordination) between manufacturers, food production and pharmaceuticals. Humans have become too dominant as a species on this planet. Perhaps viruses will be natures way of keeping tabs on population growth. I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by Matov

Saw this article in the Guardian...

[Link]

Predicting the demise of both the single currency project and the EU itself has long been a subject of debate and to be fair to both, much like the predictions of the imminent collapse of Glaciers and so on by the Green loons, many have proven incorrect.

But post this current crisis?

Not sure.

If I had to go out on a limb and make predictions I suspect that it will be the success, or an almost 50-50 vote, for Le Pen in 2022 in France that finally collapses it all.

France itself is heading for even more major civil strife and throw in an Italy in which Salvini has to be odds on favourite to take full control and the internal EU pressures will bring about a messy implosion.

Simply put this crisis is going to break Italy and Greece due to the collapse of this year's tourist business and with a possibility of dragging on into 2021. Spain could be in huge trouble and all nations without the ability to control their own currency by way of trying to alleviate the worst of it.

This virus has the potential to be as history-changing as both World War 1 & 2.

Perhaps the break-up of the EU. Lots of countries which have a large tourist industry will struggle. And who can bale them out ?
Although the EU may break up, I can see ties (better co-coordination) between manufacturers, food production and pharmaceuticals.

Humans have become too dominant as a species on this planet. Perhaps viruses will be natures way of keeping tabs on population growth.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 01 Apr 20 1.17pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 To take refuge is to seek the nearest possible place of safety. They are all economic migrants, not refugees. Exactly. If mine or my family’s life was in danger and I had to flee then as soon as I crossed a safe border I would fall to my knees and thank God. I wouldn’t then carry on across another dozen borders to get my country of choice. As you say, all who arrive here are economic migrants as the UK does not border anywhere with troubles. Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with people wanting a better life, but we need to say it how it is. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 01 Apr 20 1.17pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

To take refuge is to seek the nearest possible place of safety.

They are all economic migrants, not refugees.

Exactly. If mine or my family’s life was in danger and I had to flee then as soon as I crossed a safe border I would fall to my knees and thank God.

I wouldn’t then carry on across another dozen borders to get my country of choice.

As you say, all who arrive here are economic migrants as the UK does not border anywhere with troubles.

Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with people wanting a better life, but we need to say it how it is.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Harpo Oxfordshire 01 Apr 20 1.29pm
Russian nationalism won't matter. They will be hit hardest of all - if they were pre-empting the virus with any vigour, we'd all know about it. It will trigger a new Russian Revolution; and there's only one person they'll blame - Tsar Vladimir.
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Harpo

Oxfordshire 01 Apr 20 1.29pm

Russian nationalism won't matter. They will be hit hardest of all - if they were pre-empting the virus with any vigour, we'd all know about it.
It will trigger a new Russian Revolution; and there's only one person they'll blame - Tsar Vladimir.

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Stirlingsays 01 Apr 20 1.30pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Perhaps the break-up of the EU. Lots of countries which have a large tourist industry will struggle. And who can bale them out ? Although the EU may break up, I can see ties (better co-coordination) between manufacturers, food production and pharmaceuticals. Humans have become too dominant as a species on this planet. Perhaps viruses will be natures way of keeping tabs on population growth. Personally I'd regard sterilization as a far more effective and humane solution. Do you view nature as sentient in some way? I'm not being critical, many people do and I've never really thought about it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

01 Apr 20 1.30pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Humans have become too dominant as a species on this planet. Perhaps viruses will be natures way of keeping tabs on population growth.

Personally I'd regard sterilization as a far more effective and humane solution.

Do you view nature as sentient in some way? I'm not being critical, many people do and I've never really thought about it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 01 Apr 20 1.50pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Personally I'd regard sterilization as a far more effective and humane solution. Do you view nature as sentient in some way? I'm not being critical, many people do and I've never really thought about it. Nature is nature, I don't attribute any sentient ways. A major weakness to human dominance is the fact that terrible viruses can spread so quickly (via a myriad of pathways), before we have time to react. The current pandemic may allow our species to be better-prepared for the next one. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (01 Apr 2020 1.51pm) I disengage, I turn the page.
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in a hidey-hole 01 Apr 20 1.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Personally I'd regard sterilization as a far more effective and humane solution.

Do you view nature as sentient in some way? I'm not being critical, many people do and I've never really thought about it.

Nature is nature, I don't attribute any sentient ways. A major weakness to human dominance is the fact that terrible viruses can spread so quickly (via a myriad of pathways), before we have time to react.
The current pandemic may allow our species to be better-prepared for the next one.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (01 Apr 2020 1.51pm)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Stirlingsays 01 Apr 20 3.48pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Nature is nature, I don't attribute any sentient ways. A major weakness to human dominance is the fact that terrible viruses can spread so quickly (via a myriad of pathways), before we have time to react. The current pandemic may allow our species to be better-prepared for the next one. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (01 Apr 2020 1.51pm) Man, there is going to be so much fallout because of this. I have no idea what the world looks like in five years time.....I will be highly surprised if it's all the same. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

01 Apr 20 3.48pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (01 Apr 2020 1.51pm)

Man, there is going to be so much fallout because of this. I have no idea what the world looks like in five years time.....I will be highly surprised if it's all the same.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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dannyboy1978 01 Apr 20 5.17pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Man, there is going to be so much fallout because of this. I have no idea what the world looks like in five years time.....I will be highly surprised if it's all the same. Hopfully a world that we don't buy Chinese crap.
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dannyboy1978

01 Apr 20 5.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Man, there is going to be so much fallout because of this. I have no idea what the world looks like in five years time.....I will be highly surprised if it's all the same.

Hopfully a world that we don't buy Chinese crap.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Apr 20 5.37pm
Probably go back to the 70s where we were all poor but at least 'we was happy' apparently. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Apr 20 5.37pm

Probably go back to the 70s where we were all poor but at least 'we was happy' apparently.

Red and Blue Army!

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