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dynamicdick Dormansland 24 Mar 20 10.35pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle It isn't just tradesmen receiving cash but also directors of small companies who pay themselves the minimum as a wage then take the rest as dividends as they will only be able to claim the 80% of their wages. Directors cannot claim the 80% as they cannot be furloughed. Bring back Brolin
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Dormansland 24 Mar 20 10.35pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It isn't just tradesmen receiving cash but also directors of small companies who pay themselves the minimum as a wage then take the rest as dividends as they will only be able to claim the 80% of their wages.

Directors cannot claim the 80% as they cannot be furloughed.

Bring back Brolin

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cryrst The garden of England 25 Mar 20 5.37am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Many people have been playing the system, not just self-employed. Like the above-average earners who get given free nursery time for their kids at fee-paying schools. I think it's a culture-thing that gets impregnated into some societies. the philosophy of "get what what you can , and look out for me" This CV situation has just exposed it at every level of British society. (not everyone, I hasten to add, but some significant clusters everywhere) Meanwhile the Government is asking for NHS volunteers. "Yeah, I'll do a 5hltty high-risk job for nothing" I think some of these volunteers are final year nurses and medical students. Nothing like learning on the job. I'm sure if they wernt confident and capable and also accepting of the risks they dont have to do it. They will more than likely be paid as well as getting a tick in the 'you are qualified' box a bit earlier. Their oath to saving lives would be a stronger pull than their self protection, it's in their make up of wanting to do the job. It could happen to them at any time through infection and transfer.
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The garden of England 25 Mar 20 5.37am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Many people have been playing the system, not just self-employed.

Like the above-average earners who get given free nursery time for their kids at fee-paying schools.

I think it's a culture-thing that gets impregnated into some societies. the philosophy of "get what what you can , and look out for me"

This CV situation has just exposed it at every level of British society. (not everyone, I hasten to add, but some significant clusters everywhere)

Meanwhile the Government is asking for NHS volunteers.
"Yeah, I'll do a 5hltty high-risk job for nothing"

I think some of these volunteers are final year nurses and medical students. Nothing like learning on the job. I'm sure if they wernt confident and capable and also accepting of the risks they dont have to do it.
They will more than likely be paid as well as getting a tick in the 'you are qualified' box a bit earlier.
Their oath to saving lives would be a stronger pull than their self protection, it's in their make up of wanting to do the job. It could happen to them at any time through infection and transfer.

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Midlands Eagle 25 Mar 20 6.53am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Meanwhile the Government is asking for NHS volunteers. "Yeah, I'll do a 5hltty high-risk job for nothing" This highlights how far down British society has fallen in recent times. It wasn't that long ago that British men queued up to join the forces and risk their lives to save their families but nowadays it's "I'm all right Jack so f*** you"
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Meanwhile the Government is asking for NHS volunteers.
"Yeah, I'll do a 5hltty high-risk job for nothing"

This highlights how far down British society has fallen in recent times.

It wasn't that long ago that British men queued up to join the forces and risk their lives to save their families but nowadays it's "I'm all right Jack so f*** you"

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Midlands Eagle 25 Mar 20 8.51am
Originally posted by dynamicdick Directors cannot claim the 80% as they cannot be furloughed. I'm not so sure as it's not been made clear so far and directors are also employees in many cases anyway
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Midlands Eagle

25 Mar 20 8.51am

Originally posted by dynamicdick

Directors cannot claim the 80% as they cannot be furloughed.

I'm not so sure as it's not been made clear so far and directors are also employees in many cases anyway

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Mar 20 9.25am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle This highlights how far down British society has fallen in recent times. It wasn't that long ago that British men queued up to join the forces and risk their lives to save their families but nowadays it's "I'm all right Jack so f*** you" Fortunately though, although bringing out the worst in some this crisis is also showing us that the very best of British character is still there in abundance. My younger daughter manages a high dependency care home. She is currently living, in a small flat, with one of her own daughters, who is a mental health nurse, and her 3 year old, my great granddaughter. All have suffered CV symptoms in the past week or so and have had to isolate. It's been a struggle. Both my daughter and granddaughter have been doing what they can over their phones but cannot wait to get back to work. They know they are needed. They found a big box on groceries and other essentials on their doorstep the other day with a note from a neighbour they hardly know. When they thanked them from their balcony. and offered payment, it was refused with a smile. Random acts of kindness are everywhere. I am seeing them here in our village too. Someone said the other day that our grandfather's (in my case father's) generation had to face guns, bombs and rationing to help the nation survive. All we are being asked to do is sit on the sofa. So asking the willing to help those on today's front line seems perfectly sensible to me. If you can, you should. In my opinion of course! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 25 Mar 20 9.25am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

This highlights how far down British society has fallen in recent times.

It wasn't that long ago that British men queued up to join the forces and risk their lives to save their families but nowadays it's "I'm all right Jack so f*** you"

Fortunately though, although bringing out the worst in some this crisis is also showing us that the very best of British character is still there in abundance.

My younger daughter manages a high dependency care home. She is currently living, in a small flat, with one of her own daughters, who is a mental health nurse, and her 3 year old, my great granddaughter. All have suffered CV symptoms in the past week or so and have had to isolate. It's been a struggle. Both my daughter and granddaughter have been doing what they can over their phones but cannot wait to get back to work. They know they are needed.

They found a big box on groceries and other essentials on their doorstep the other day with a note from a neighbour they hardly know. When they thanked them from their balcony. and offered payment, it was refused with a smile. Random acts of kindness are everywhere. I am seeing them here in our village too.

Someone said the other day that our grandfather's (in my case father's) generation had to face guns, bombs and rationing to help the nation survive. All we are being asked to do is sit on the sofa.

So asking the willing to help those on today's front line seems perfectly sensible to me. If you can, you should. In my opinion of course!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cryrst The garden of England 25 Mar 20 9.51am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Fortunately though, although bringing out the worst in some this crisis is also showing us that the very best of British character is still there in abundance. My younger daughter manages a high dependency care home. She is currently living, in a small flat, with one of her own daughters, who is a mental health nurse, and her 3 year old, my great granddaughter. All have suffered CV symptoms in the past week or so and have had to isolate. It's been a struggle. Both my daughter and granddaughter have been doing what they can over their phones but cannot wait to get back to work. They know they are needed. They found a big box on groceries and other essentials on their doorstep the other day with a note from a neighbour they hardly know. When they thanked them from their balcony. and offered payment, it was refused with a smile. Random acts of kindness are everywhere. I am seeing them here in our village too. Someone said the other day that our grandfather's (in my case father's) generation had to face guns, bombs and rationing to help the nation survive. All we are being asked to do is sit on the sofa. So asking the willing to help those on today's front line seems perfectly sensible to me. If you can, you should. In my opinion of course! But we arnt allowed out. I'm at work as I have been told I'm a key worker. Boiler and associated plant maintenance in residential buildings. Plant rooms etc. (On a break atm all alone on a roof) I wont go in apartments though. Some of these feckers wont admit if they are isolating and I'm not trusting anyone. If they are cold they just want it fixed at whatever cost.
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The garden of England 25 Mar 20 9.51am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Fortunately though, although bringing out the worst in some this crisis is also showing us that the very best of British character is still there in abundance.

Someone said the other day that our grandfather's (in my case father's) generation had to face guns, bombs and rationing to help the nation survive. All we are being asked to do is sit on the sofa.

So asking the willing to help those on today's front line seems perfectly sensible to me. If you can, you should. In my opinion of course!

But we arnt allowed out.
I'm at work as I have been told I'm a key worker.
Boiler and associated plant maintenance in residential buildings. Plant rooms etc. (On a break atm all alone on a roof)
I wont go in apartments though. Some of these feckers wont admit if they are isolating and I'm not trusting anyone. If they are cold they just want it fixed at whatever cost.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 25 Mar 20 10.11am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Fortunately though, although bringing out the worst in some this crisis is also showing us that the very best of British character is still there in abundance. My younger daughter manages a high dependency care home. She is currently living, in a small flat, with one of her own daughters, who is a mental health nurse, and her 3 year old, my great granddaughter. All have suffered CV symptoms in the past week or so and have had to isolate. It's been a struggle. Both my daughter and granddaughter have been doing what they can over their phones but cannot wait to get back to work. They know they are needed. They found a big box on groceries and other essentials on their doorstep the other day with a note from a neighbour they hardly know. When they thanked them from their balcony. and offered payment, it was refused with a smile. Random acts of kindness are everywhere. I am seeing them here in our village too. Someone said the other day that our grandfather's (in my case father's) generation had to face guns, bombs and rationing to help the nation survive. All we are being asked to do is sit on the sofa. So asking the willing to help those on today's front line seems perfectly sensible to me. If you can, you should. In my opinion of course! Great story "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 25 Mar 20 10.11am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Fortunately though, although bringing out the worst in some this crisis is also showing us that the very best of British character is still there in abundance.

Someone said the other day that our grandfather's (in my case father's) generation had to face guns, bombs and rationing to help the nation survive. All we are being asked to do is sit on the sofa.

So asking the willing to help those on today's front line seems perfectly sensible to me. If you can, you should. In my opinion of course!

Great story

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 25 Mar 20 10.16am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Fortunately though, although bringing out the worst in some this crisis is also showing us that the very best of British character is still there in abundance. My younger daughter manages a high dependency care home. She is currently living, in a small flat, with one of her own daughters, who is a mental health nurse, and her 3 year old, my great granddaughter. All have suffered CV symptoms in the past week or so and have had to isolate. It's been a struggle. Both my daughter and granddaughter have been doing what they can over their phones but cannot wait to get back to work. They know they are needed. They found a big box on groceries and other essentials on their doorstep the other day with a note from a neighbour they hardly know. When they thanked them from their balcony. and offered payment, it was refused with a smile. Random acts of kindness are everywhere. I am seeing them here in our village too. Someone said the other day that our grandfather's (in my case father's) generation had to face guns, bombs and rationing to help the nation survive. All we are being asked to do is sit on the sofa. So asking the willing to help those on today's front line seems perfectly sensible to me. If you can, you should. In my opinion of course! There are obvious differences between being invaded by the Nazis and Covid-19 and the odds of the Covid-19 affecting many people is very low and the virus is likely to go away, whether by human intervention or not. I wouldn’t have great confidence in many that they could fight a war now anyway. None of the self interest is surprising. I will always put my priorities first, but I don’t shrug my shoulders with regards to everyone else. It’s very sad but what I’ve come to expect. I’ve generally not liked a lot of people for quite some time and have surprised people by who I’ve disliked. When I tell them why they still don’t get it because the moral code or a person’s character over some things that really matter don’t matter in people’s heads. The things they see of value aren’t of value so I really don’t care what they think anyway. Appearance and materials are the main and often only thing of value and how people are judged. These people just bore me so it’s making the decision easy for me and they’re not in any position of financial status anyway and therefore just laughable. I went for a long mountain bike ride (double the one hour) yesterday and stopped for a break leaning against a public fence. A mother and adult son had plenty of room of 5-6 metres to pass. Instead the son past me about a foot or two away. ‘’A bit close aren’t you?’’ ‘’Oh go away.’’ ‘’Have some respect you absolute tit.’’ For his own safety he didn’t turn back towards me. Everyone else is maintaining social distancing. Edited by Rudi Hedman (25 Mar 2020 10.17am) COYP
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Caterham 25 Mar 20 10.16am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Fortunately though, although bringing out the worst in some this crisis is also showing us that the very best of British character is still there in abundance.

Someone said the other day that our grandfather's (in my case father's) generation had to face guns, bombs and rationing to help the nation survive. All we are being asked to do is sit on the sofa.

So asking the willing to help those on today's front line seems perfectly sensible to me. If you can, you should. In my opinion of course!

There are obvious differences between being invaded by the Nazis and Covid-19 and the odds of the Covid-19 affecting many people is very low and the virus is likely to go away, whether by human intervention or not. I wouldn’t have great confidence in many that they could fight a war now anyway.

None of the self interest is surprising. I will always put my priorities first, but I don’t shrug my shoulders with regards to everyone else. It’s very sad but what I’ve come to expect. I’ve generally not liked a lot of people for quite some time and have surprised people by who I’ve disliked. When I tell them why they still don’t get it because the moral code or a person’s character over some things that really matter don’t matter in people’s heads. The things they see of value aren’t of value so I really don’t care what they think anyway. Appearance and materials are the main and often only thing of value and how people are judged. These people just bore me so it’s making the decision easy for me and they’re not in any position of financial status anyway and therefore just laughable.

I went for a long mountain bike ride (double the one hour) yesterday and stopped for a break leaning against a public fence. A mother and adult son had plenty of room of 5-6 metres to pass. Instead the son past me about a foot or two away.
‘’A bit close aren’t you?’’
‘’Oh go away.’’
‘’Have some respect you absolute tit.’’
For his own safety he didn’t turn back towards me.

Everyone else is maintaining social distancing.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (25 Mar 2020 10.17am)

COYP

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dynamicdick Dormansland 25 Mar 20 10.30am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I'm not so sure as it's not been made clear so far and directors are also employees in many cases anyway Yes many are employed but the employment law progression of furloughing is ultimately redundancy and a sole Director cannot be made redundant as I understand unless the Company is placed into a formal insolvent situation such as Administration, when the redundancy claim would be made against the administrator. The logic also being that if the Director goes who runs the company and legally every limited company has to have at least one Director. If the company has two or more Directors I am unsure if the other Director can be furloughed. I stand open to correction from anyone with superior knowledge. Bring back Brolin
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Dormansland 25 Mar 20 10.30am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I'm not so sure as it's not been made clear so far and directors are also employees in many cases anyway

Yes many are employed but the employment law progression of furloughing is ultimately redundancy and a sole Director cannot be made redundant as I understand unless the Company is placed into a formal insolvent situation such as Administration, when the redundancy claim would be made against the administrator.

The logic also being that if the Director goes who runs the company and legally every limited company has to have at least one Director.
If the company has two or more Directors I am unsure if the other Director can be furloughed.

I stand open to correction from anyone with superior knowledge.

Bring back Brolin

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Midlands Eagle 25 Mar 20 10.35am
Originally posted by dynamicdick I stand open to correction from anyone with superior knowledge. I don't think that anyone has at the moment
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Midlands Eagle

25 Mar 20 10.35am

Originally posted by dynamicdick

I stand open to correction from anyone with superior knowledge.

I don't think that anyone has at the moment

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dynamicdick Dormansland 25 Mar 20 12.03pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I don't think that anyone has at the moment Agreed Bring back Brolin
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Dormansland 25 Mar 20 12.03pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I don't think that anyone has at the moment

Agreed

Bring back Brolin

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johnno42000 25 Mar 20 12.22pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I don't think that anyone has at the moment I have but have been sworn to secrecy by the Illuminati 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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25 Mar 20 12.22pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I don't think that anyone has at the moment

I have but have been sworn to secrecy by the Illuminati

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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